Start of #Exalted buffer: Sun Nov 22 21:42:22 2009 [18:19:29] Hey AE [18:19:35] yo [18:22:40] Am I running tonight or is Adyen busy? [18:22:57] He's on AIM... [18:23:05] * Adyen (senranda@74.12.125.48) has joined #Exalted [18:23:12] yo [18:23:18] Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay [18:23:23] :< I just didn't click continue.. [18:24:10] so is everyone here? [18:24:17] :> [18:24:48] I am! [18:25:21] I'm here [18:26:07] into #AEMC then [18:26:29] while I try to recall where we left off [18:28:27] Dem? Yon? [18:28:52] * Yon is now known as Kaori [18:29:17] * Adyen is now known as Echo [18:29:33] * Demota is now known as Natsumi [18:30:32] ^O^ [18:33:56] Hhahahah [18:33:58] Unfortunately the system itself was terrible (think Twilight: 2000, Traveler or the like-- most of the PCs were in their fifties, and in one campaign the captain suffered multiple heart attacks) [18:38:43] Hahahah [18:38:43] Alright then. You wake up three days later, covered in slime. You gain a medium phobia of bugs and the knowledge skill Bug Sex at two. [18:38:44] Dammit. [18:38:44] Also, your bug suit is drained of all its power, and crumbles apart as you move. [18:38:44] Dammit. [18:38:44] Are you sure that wouldn't be an active skill? [18:38:44] Good call, Bug Sex is an active skill. [18:38:46] Dammit. [18:39:12] hahahahahhahaah [18:45:47] I apoligize for it being so long :( [18:48:01] ... Perilous. When I saw that word, I thought Darkwing Duck. [18:49:25] Oh, so Myriad has a PC version of Puerto Rico for $9 [18:49:28] And I almost got it [18:49:43] Except I realized why the hell would I buy a computerized board game nobody else has? :( [18:50:23] Huh. Wow. [18:50:28] It's a good game. [18:50:34] Yeah [18:50:41] * Alt-Eisen waits [18:50:41] BBut if I get it, I want to play against people [18:51:26] AE: Didn't we get ready last session? [18:51:32] yup [18:51:36] Yeah [18:51:37] I think so [18:51:38] So let's go! [18:51:43] gogogogogo [18:52:47] On the other hand, if Myriad has more copies, I may have found my Christmas present for you guys [18:53:00] Haha [18:53:15] I like that th efild workers are represneted by dark brown chips. :| [18:53:20] Because, hey, $9 for a computer version of one of the best board games ever? Hell yeah [18:53:25] Hahah, yeah [18:54:06] In fac,t in German, the guy in charge can be translated as overseer [18:54:09] Oh, Dem, at work, I'm obliged to have my Gmail open, so if you have any ideas, you can send them via google messenger [18:54:11] Huh, wow [18:54:31] Oh, okay. Sure [18:56:07] the game seems to be less peppy than I remember it :( [18:56:17] ? [18:56:54] Not all the time, since I'm there to work and not chat on the intertron, but I'll be able to talk during my break [18:56:58] Well, it's been a while since we played. [18:57:02] true [18:57:17] Sorry, need to go to the washroom. >_> [18:57:23] And there seemed to be a bit of confusion about where we were picking up. [18:58:24] Last but not least, we ended and began on a note of the PCs being apprehensive. [18:58:52] sorry :( [19:00:09] Hey, don't apologize, I'm trying to encourage you that there's nothing to worry about. [19:00:16] ah [19:05:25] Does she have toast in her mouth? [19:07:42] * NovaSeaker (novaseaker@c-67-190-201-163.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) [19:11:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT1BbH_e-qM Lalalalalla eurobeat [19:11:43] Thanks for the initial D plug. :p [19:12:20] All of us, or just Natsumi? [19:12:48] well Natsumi still misses the bell :P [19:13:14] D: [19:13:15] Hahaha, some guy asked how to run a D&D game where no sentients die, because it makes him uncomfortable, which is reasonable. One of the responses was: [19:13:15] Do it like old TMNT were you never actually use your weapons and just trip them over and disarm them forever [19:13:15] Tonight I dine on turtle soup! [19:13:15] *is pantsed* [19:13:15] Turtles!!! [19:13:16] All of us? [19:13:35] yah [19:13:47] Cha: Aaaaaahahahahah [19:13:59] hahahahahahaha [19:14:42] Am I moving fast enough that she couldn't ID me later? [19:14:59] make a Body roll [19:16:39] God, every fucking time I see Ferrinus post, I'm astounded I haven't put him on ignore yet [19:16:45] 2d6 [19:16:45] Natsumi rolls 2D6: 2 2 = 4 [19:16:48] Made by 4 [19:16:52] k [19:16:58] you blaze past [19:17:12] I'm pretty sure he posts literally *nothing* but asinine misinterpertations of things good posters post [19:17:46] Yeah [19:20:18] stealth roll Kao [19:20:36] Um...shit, do you have my sheet? [19:20:43] Wait, I know where it is [19:20:44] XD [19:20:48] lemme dig it out [19:21:07] Well, I know where a version of it is. Might be an earlier version [19:21:42] shending [19:22:32] stealth roll Echo [19:22:37] Welp. I guess that's a straight body roll then. :| (unless I can use soul to get lucky) [19:22:52] which is higher? [19:23:05] Soul by 4 [19:23:11] try it [19:23:28] Fuck it, ignored Ferrinus. Good riddence to the bastard [19:23:40] Basterd [19:23:49] Now I just need a greasemonkey script that filters out people quoting him [19:24:03] give me a sec [19:24:09] 2d6 [19:24:09] Echo rolls 2D6: 5 3 = 8 [19:24:16] 2d6 [19:24:16] Kaori rolls 2D6: 3 1 = 4 [19:24:24] Beats soul by 3, misses body by 1 [19:24:55] hum, I'll give it to you both since i don't feel like breaking the group [19:28:08] argh! [19:28:30] Anybody know the room Usagi [19:28:33] erk [19:28:38] Anybody know the room Usagi's class is in? [19:28:57] Uh... no idea. [19:29:06] Oh, cool, The Fame Monster comes out tomorrow [19:29:08] Don't remember... >_> I think it was shown like, once in the entire anime. [19:29:08] you make me do crazy internet searches [19:29:20] I might take a drive up to the mall after work tomorrow to pick it up [19:29:20] Not a clue! [19:29:44] What's that? [19:30:01] The new Lady Gaga album. It's a rerelease of her first album with eight new songs [19:30:08] hmmmm [19:30:09] Oooh [19:30:14] http://img.waffleimages.com/6ffeb6325339f0ac73db065a0ab6f96054ea441b/game_over.jpg "Someone should tell them they invented Lady Gaga." [19:30:42] Hahahhahaha [19:30:49] Did everyone remember to switch out their shoes for indoor slippers when heading into the school? :P [19:31:48] I don't know, did we remember to breathe? :| [19:31:55] Yeah, i swap. [19:32:07] hehehe [19:32:16] (I think the one good thing to come of Ferrinus, IIRC, was when he was fucking up a thread, and someone mentioned how he had crippling aspergers. And a few posts later, someone posted "Ferrinus has empowering aspergers." [19:32:26] Yeah, that's one of those things that's assumed you do, like breathing, going to the bathroom, and tying up hostages. :| [19:32:41] just checking [19:33:03] ahahahahahha [19:33:22] Yeah, General at least has Fucking the Dog [19:33:24] If Nova was running this game, you guys would already have been punched in the face for not changing shoes. :| [19:33:50] In before heart attack for stopping to think about making the heart beat. [19:33:56] Hello by the way [19:33:58] hahaha [19:33:58] Hi [19:34:05] Hahah, hey, Ran [19:34:17] ^o^ [19:34:27] Oh, Odal tomorrow. [19:34:31] I should update the wobsite. [19:34:43] Man, it just made me giggle when I realized the conflux of the "Lady Gaga is a man" rumors and Lady Gaga playing at the Wang theater in Boston [19:34:58] hahaha [19:35:08] Hahahahha [19:35:34] Awww. The tickets to her Boston shows sold out now that I have a job to pay for them with [19:35:43] :( [19:36:09] That's a real shame. If the VMA video is anything to judge by, her live shows are probably more interesting than her music videos [19:36:49] Yeah [19:39:12] ...It kind of bothers me that I unironically really enjoy the woodcutter's song [19:41:07] Yeah, same here [19:41:10] He's just so happy [19:41:46] I love to cut the tree [19:42:02] Yo ho ho and I'm out of control [19:42:32] Well, I'm sure it won't be the last time she plays Boston. [19:42:43] Yeah [19:43:05] Still, it seems like one of those things where every tour will be notably different [19:45:32] Yeah [19:47:01] oh ffs. I can't find my sheet. >_> [19:47:11] INCOMING!!! [19:47:27] KABOOOM!! [19:57:46] Hhaahhaah [19:57:52] "I just used "If Obama gets his way, everyone will have a Gearscore of 2000" " [20:00:26] Hahahah [20:00:35] What was the context of that? [20:00:55] hahahah [20:01:02] The trolling trade chat thread. [20:03:04] Aaah [20:03:18] Hahaha, in a paradox megagame thread: [20:03:20] LITERALLY MAD IRL posted: [20:03:20] B's obviously the best choice but it's never going to win because there's no one ever votes for anything in between MAXIMUM HITLER and MINIMUM HITLER. [20:03:20] Since we swing so violently from one extreme to another do you think over the thread we've attained MEDIUM HITLER? [20:04:13] I've always loved the phrase MAXIMUM HITLER [20:04:32] M-M-M-MAXIMUM HITLER [20:04:57] as said in the Kamen Rider Decade belt voice :P [20:05:40] Oh god [20:05:53] Kamen Hitler would be a pretty interesting toku hero [20:08:49] It's Haruhi! :P [20:08:56] j/k [20:09:28] I'd like to have a moment of silence for the conversation. [20:11:52] ... [20:13:00] mind if we stop at say 9pst? [20:13:05] Okay. [20:22:17] :P [20:24:10] Whoo, Hohenzollern Rising finally ended [20:24:16] There's just an epilogue update [20:24:23] Oh, cool [20:24:30] A Paradox LP actually had a real ending? [20:24:31] ah Natsumi Ginga, the weird foreign student...as far as everyone knows :P [20:24:34] Yeah [20:25:25] Before the epilogue, it ended with the world war ending with a nuclear standoff, with Germany taking the upper hand above Mazula [20:25:46] Mazula bombed Essen, and Germany bombed a military base on the Yucatan and made limited landings [20:25:58] And peace talks began [20:26:40] Mazula is a pretty fantastic bit of alt-history [20:27:52] And it actually seems fairly plausible, with how the Hohenzollern timeline played out [20:27:57] Huh [20:28:32] Basically, the crusades didn't really happen, or at least, weren't as often and as quasi-successful, so the muslim world spread pretty rampantly, and absorbed a lot of the legacy of the greeks [20:28:56] ooh [20:29:23] So while the religious/feudalist dark age continued in Catholic europe, without as much of the looted Grecian stuff, humanism became the domain of Islam [20:29:34] That's pretty cool [20:30:39] The new world is basically split between a series of conservative theocracies and democracies founded by pre-revolutionary Iberia (Which was the Iberian peninsula united under a single caliphate), and Mazula, which started as Mexico, but spread all the way to Alaska, and was a liberal democracy [20:31:02] And the equivalent of the French revolution happened in Iberia, when disposessed peasants rose up against the caliph [20:33:44] The equivalent of the united states in the game became a facist dictatorship in the late 1800s [20:34:01] Huh [20:34:04] And, in the world war 2 analogue, was Mazula's main enemy. [20:34:37] And an ally of Germany's, but only because Germany had slipped into facism, and was ideologically opposed to democracy [20:34:53] * Natsumi nods [20:35:03] (Since, after all this time, the divine right of kings and the holy roman empire were still part of the European zeitgeist) [20:35:36] Makes senese [20:37:39] * Natsumi pokes AE [20:37:49] I was waiting on you guys [20:39:09] Waiting for what? [20:39:15] dunno [20:39:18] Just "We're headed out to the tree to eat". [20:39:22] And then we expect to be at the tree [20:41:33] What district did we live in before? [20:41:55] I forget. Choose one [20:42:01] wait [20:42:05] Hahah "Clearly, ILLBLEED was a game made by rocket scientists who were actively questioning life's norms." [20:42:09] lemme check something [20:42:14] hahahahahahha [20:42:19] Illbleed? [20:42:20] Cut the cut the tree [20:42:25] It's from that amazing hilarious LP [20:42:32] Illbleed is actually kind of subversive in interesting ways [20:42:40] Yeah. [20:42:51] It's like... I cna recongize it's bad [20:42:55] Like, I think it goes beyond bizarre humor at times to actually being actively trying to undermine what you expect out of a video game [20:43:05] It'd almost be Suda-51-like [20:43:07] I dunno [20:43:07] But I can't help but love it bceause of yeah, it's so subversive and new [20:43:08] Er, which amazing hilarious LP? [20:43:16] Oh, AE, are you gonna be able to play Tuesday? [20:43:17] If I said it before I forgot :P [20:43:18] If it didn't have parts that're recognizable as part of a game. [20:43:25] Tuesday? [20:43:26] http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3222410 [20:43:30] http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3222410 It's hilarious [20:43:33] maybe [20:43:33] Yeah, I wanna play Elfs. [20:43:37] Or run, rather [20:43:58] Sorry, I don't think Elfs is a game I'd like [20:44:19] I could watch [20:44:22] * Natsumi nods [20:44:28] Hey, Charles, might Matt be opne? [20:44:44] I'm just gonna go "/me tells her" to save time [20:44:52] okay [20:45:14] Tomorrow, I'll probably post rules about Elfs somewhere to prep for Tuesday [20:46:26] Ask Matt [20:46:44] Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatt. [20:46:48] Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatt. [20:46:49] Matt. [20:47:13] Maaaaaaaaaatt :Nappa: [20:47:31] What's :Nappa:? [20:47:46] I kind of think part of the reason Illbleed is so overlooked is because a lot of the things that make it work as a piece of subversive material is stuff that's indistinguishable from, like, well-meaning but bad game design [20:47:50] Never seen Dragonball Z abridged? [20:47:55] Yeah. [20:47:58] Oh, yeah, i've seen it [20:48:16] While Suda 51's games don't really make jokes in the same way, and are so badly designed that they're actively hostile to the players [20:48:22] Oh Vegetaaaaaaaaa [20:48:25] Hahhaha [20:48:38] Well, the :word: format is for emoticons [20:48:44] ah [20:48:52] It's a ref to the somethingawful emoticons [20:48:58] ah [20:49:41] Like, I think it's possible to look at Illbleed and think "Someone wanted to make this a good game" [20:49:47] would be better there [20:49:52] Yeah. [20:49:52] ah [20:50:21] It's absolutely impossible to look at No More Heroes or Flower, Sun, and Rain or Killer 7 and think that, at every stage of development, they weren't thinking of how to make it worse [20:50:37] * Natsumi nods [20:50:50] Flower, Sun and Rain especially. Like, he specifically wanted to address useless video game sidequests. [20:51:01] Yeah [20:51:10] Killer7, I have NO idea what he wanted to do. [20:51:18] Flower, Sun and Rain has absolutely no intent of being a good game [20:51:21] Yeah [20:51:45] Nore More Heroes is probably his most playable game and I honestly enjoyed most of it. [20:51:57] I'm kind of tempted to say that Killer 7 makes an artistic statement unconnected to gaming [20:51:59] But it was really a commentary about video game players and the attitudes they take [20:52:06] I remmeber he said it was about politics? [20:52:11] NMH was better than others, but it still has stuff like tedious grinding for cash [20:52:23] And having to do a day job so you could afford to go and murder things [20:52:31] * Natsumi nods. [20:52:40] Which is a pretty interesting way to look at the interaction gamers have with the real world and escapism [20:52:40] Well, the day job is usually just something I do once. [20:52:48] The real money is in assassination missions [20:52:52] Yeah [20:53:44] Yeah, but you literally have to do the day jobs to do the assassinations [20:53:53] Yeah, but doing them just one time isn't that bad. [20:53:57] And once you unlock them, you keep doing the same ones over and over and over [20:54:11] Even though, honestly, the day jobs do more interesting things with the control scheme [20:54:22] * Natsumi nods. [20:54:29] But they aren't as 'rewarding' as grinding out the same 'kill twenty guys' quest ad nauseum [20:54:31] I wonder if the day jobs were meant to be a commentary in some way. [20:54:43] I think I just broke it down right there [20:54:56] So the day jobs represent real life? [20:55:18] The day jobs are more interesting ways to spend your time, but Travis, as a gamer proxy, and the player himself, would rather spend their time doing repetitve tasks over and over for spurious rewards [20:55:29] Yeah [20:55:46] You unlock the right to waste you time grinding in a video game by doing a 'real job' mission [20:57:17] * Natsumi nods [20:57:46] The day jobs are also like... actually beneficial to other human beings. [20:57:53] Like controlling scorpions or rescuing cats [20:57:59] I plan to cut it before you enter the gym [20:58:03] S'fine [20:58:16] Yeah [20:59:02] I think the scoreboard thing at the end of levels is interesting because, in a sense, the scoreboard isn't trivializing the death of the NPC [20:59:11] It's pointing out how trivial the time you spent was [20:59:54] The two hours you spent presing butan to kill Bad Girl was essentially identical to spending two hours playing some pointless retro arcade game [21:00:35] np [21:00:35] * Natsumi nods [21:00:42] The scoreboard struck me as like... REALLY sarcastic [21:00:53] I think it is [21:01:06] And what it's sarcastic about is probably dependant on how you read it [21:01:37] Either it's 'whoop, good job, you've just murdered another human being for no reason' or 'whoop, good job, you just won a battle, isn't that an 'accomplishment'." [21:01:49] Yeah. the seoond is how I suually read it [21:02:08] I'm really curious about the achievements in Hero's Paradise will work out [21:02:24] Yeah. It's a new space for art. [21:02:38] I'm oing to be kind of disappointed if they aren't all either remarkably trivial or a huge pain in the ass to get [21:02:41] Well unless you got something else for me, I'd like to head to bed, please [21:02:44] That's fine [21:02:49] Just put down the [End sesison] [21:02:55] I did [21:02:57] Ah, k [21:02:58] Night AE [21:03:03] later doods [21:03:09] * Alt-Eisen (Alt-Eisen@cpe-76-175-9-161.socal.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Client Exited) [21:03:52] That was fun [21:03:55] * Echo is now known as Adyen [21:04:05] It's ok. I tend to like the action scenes more. :p End of #Exalted buffer Sun Nov 22 21:42:22 2009