Start of #Exalted buffer: Thu Mar 12 09:23:25 2009 [17:30:25] * Demota is now known as Eilenia [17:30:32] Yon: THe UK has a real problem with knife crimes. [17:30:32] I'm mainly talking about WoW and FFXI [17:30:40] well of course it does since mmos make more money [17:30:44] I'm trying to think of a game that puts a lot of detail into knifing people. [17:30:48] Indeed. [17:30:56] Did Final Fantasy and Blizzard games really have a stringest release schedule before they made MMOs? [17:31:11] Square Enix just keeps pumping out games, even after FFXI came out [17:31:12] That MMOS=Easy Money thing is where I get the feeling that MMOs are stagnatign the rest of the videogame industry. [17:31:14] And all I can come up with is Assassin's Creed. [17:31:16] I can't believe Blizzard did [17:31:18] I mean, come on [17:31:23] And they've been no slouches on updaing FF11 either [17:31:27] Ghost was supposed to be released years ago [17:31:28] Nova: A lot of MMOs are actually failing. [17:31:30] and they pushed and pushed it [17:31:46] They aren't really "easy money". Never were. [17:31:46] * Yon is now known as Paera [17:31:52] * NovaSeaker is now known as Eve_Kasnora [17:31:57] Because maybe I'm wrong, and maybe I just fell through a hole from an alternate dimension, but I'm pretty sure that Final Fantasy's had a pretty solid 'every few years' release schedule, as well as Squaresoft shoveling out more games in general since FFXI, and Blizzard NEVER releases ANYTHING [17:32:09] Yeah. [17:32:14] I agree. [17:32:20] I mean, how long was it between Diablo II and Warcraft 3? [17:32:24] Blizzard was a total flake when it came to game releases. [17:32:38] Blizzard would call you, invite you to dinner, and then never show up. [17:32:40] heh [17:32:42] And you'd call it at home [17:32:43] Blizzard has the luxury of releasing games when they're good and ready [17:32:47] and it'd be all, "Sorry, baby, I forgot" [17:32:50] Just like 3D Realms [17:32:51] and then you'd drive by its house [17:32:52] haha [17:32:57] and it's in the living room, makin gout with capcom [17:33:02] NO! [17:33:09] And Square has the luxury of being able to put out anything it wants and having people buy it because OMG BISHI ^-^ [17:33:14] ^-^ [17:33:16] Dude. [17:33:18] ^-^ [17:33:26] well betweeen warcraft 3 and d2 there was 2 years [17:33:27] Those fucking little dudes from FFXI [17:33:29] are amazing. [17:33:36] taru? [17:33:40] Yeah [17:33:47] I'll admit thoes guys are great [17:33:47] between WOW and the next non WOW release we're looking at least 5-6 years at the moment [17:33:48] Get in #Odal, Dem and Yon [17:33:54] Okay [17:33:57] Maybe the cutest thing I've seen in a long time. [17:34:29] Blizzard's always been fairly slow, though. And I doubt they're not working on their other games because of WoW [17:34:34] Yeah. [17:34:40] I used to have a Taru warrior named Pikkipalo [17:34:43] Hell, Blizzard's had a history of canned games too [17:34:49] and he was the damnest little guy. [17:34:53] If anything, what WoW's done is give them the revenue stream to keep those games in development as long as they want to. [17:35:06] That is why I appreciate WoW. [17:35:11] I don't play it, but I'm glad it let Blizzard survive. [17:35:12] Because before WoW, they had to release games before they were done in order to make money for their next game [17:35:13] You really think they will pull manpower off when WOW first came out? Heck even EA pulled people off to do WAR [17:35:18] I was there I know [17:35:23] What [17:35:31] Seriously, I have no idea what you're trying to say [17:35:32] They grabbed people from all over the mythic department to work on WAR [17:35:35] I'm having a hard time understnading you. [17:35:58] I'm saying that MMOs take a lot of man power and they development on other games are slowed down because of that [17:36:02] Well, yeah. [17:36:08] No one's denying that [17:36:14] That's why I reset them. [17:36:23] +n [17:36:32] But I don't think it's right to try to wish MMOs out of existence, Nova. [17:37:26] Why not? It's not like my wish will make it come true. [17:37:32] If companies keep promising me new, solid single and co-op player experiences, and they use MMOs to fund that development, then I'm totally cool with MMOs. [17:37:37] It's just an opinion of one guy in his mom's basement. [17:37:44] Because' it's a bad desire. [17:37:47] One guy... who would change the world. [17:37:56] * Plow situational music [17:38:01] ! [17:38:05] By that logic, it's rational to hate any genre you don't like made by a company that also makes games you like [17:38:17] Because they could be working on something you LIKE instead. [17:38:21] I can hate genres. But I wouldn't try to wish them out of existence. [17:38:30] I hate sports games and wish they weren't made either. [17:38:34] STop it! [17:38:34] lol [17:38:38] You don't know what you're doing! [17:38:41] Also, Dresdin seems to be operating under the premise that WoW has, like, a constant pool of employees and doesn't try to expand as a result of being *rich as fuck* [17:38:53] heh [17:38:55] who said that [17:39:37] Of course they expanded and of course they are expanding but the majority of their resources is still focused on WOW [17:39:40] Okay, who wants to play Odal now? [17:39:42] As it should be [17:39:47] * Eve_Kasnora raises a hand. [17:40:16] Odal has become one of my favorite parts of the week. ._. [17:40:21] Same here. [17:40:30] The one bright point I look forward to each week [17:40:49] Odal is like my mid-week weekend. [17:40:54] Exactly [17:40:57] my weekends are pretty awesome [17:41:02] but as far as the school week goes [17:41:04] this is it. [17:42:21] yeah [17:42:38] My weekends tend to be pretty good, but they're always usually tiring. [17:42:47] For some reason, even more tiring than the weekdays. o_o [17:42:53] I'm hosting gt [17:42:59] Alright, logging on in a sec [17:45:06] I read what Dem just said as being said by Matt, and it was really hard not to be snarky until I read the name tag. :| [17:46:21] Hahahaha [17:46:23] Oh dear. [17:46:36] I try to be pretty good about that stuff. [17:46:42] I can't connect. [17:46:46] Neither can I [17:46:46] Ugh, I put the new IP into gametable and it froze. [17:46:49] Damn [17:46:53] So I guess I win the can't connect contest. [17:47:03] What's the prize? [17:47:39] Astral Voice [17:48:00] 1d20+14 [17:48:00] Eve_Kasnora rolls 1D20+14: 13 +14 = 27 [17:48:09] What is that? [17:48:37] For a second I thought Astral Voice was the prize and I didn't understand what kind of prize that was. :downs: [17:48:43] hahaha [17:49:02] Hahaha [17:50:03] Horbek. [17:50:15] Accent. [17:50:26] :P [17:50:26] Acce-- yeah. [17:52:34] did I get that right? Ruler of Ruin? [17:52:44] Yeah [17:53:03] Yeah [17:53:08] cool [17:53:52] ...I am listening to a Japanese cover of Bohemian Rhapsody. MY BRAIN. (why the fuck am I even listening to this) [17:54:14] If I only had a heaaart... [17:54:19] Oh man. I heard a Japanese cover of like... a huge medley of Queen songs [17:54:45] what was Yeenoghu's other name? Something of Slaughter? [17:54:59] Dunno [18:00:46] Don't we have a magic bread basket? [18:00:56] * Ryumaru (vanity.evo@cpc2-nthc17-0-0-cust317.nrth.cable.ntl.com) has joined #Exalted [18:00:56] We do. [18:00:57] Or something? [18:01:02] Good for six people a day, IIRC [18:01:16] * Ryumaru blinks. Mews. [18:01:25] I still have rations [18:01:34] Do you think Warforged always look smug? [18:01:35] They probably do. [18:01:42] How good a word is "smug" [18:01:58] Hello @ Ryu [18:02:06] It kind of depends on how they were made [18:02:19] Hehe. Hi. =3 [18:02:26] It'd probably take a real dick of a wizard to make a warforged that always looked like he thought he was better than others [18:02:30] Hahaha [18:02:44] Do you think the way a Warforged looks affects his personality? [18:02:45] hahahaha [18:03:54] It might, in the way that the way anyone looks (and thus, is reacted to) affects their personality [18:03:59] That's what I was thinking too [18:04:08] Well I think it's an established fact that a lot of wizards are real dicks.' [18:04:17] That's true [18:04:38] I know if I was a wizard, I would be a giant dick. [18:04:50] Unless I was a gnome [18:04:54] Then I would just be a tiny prick. [18:05:08] Hahah [18:06:09] * Eve_Kasnora crosses fingers for that 27 diplomacy check [18:11:36] Nova, what's your GT info again? [18:12:26] Fromthe guys who brought you The Graveyard and the Endless Forest: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/ 03/11/what-cruel-teeth-youve-got-the-path-impressions/ [18:12:28] :| [18:13:01] Oh my god. [18:13:05] You guys have to SEE this. [18:13:09] Hang on, bear with me [18:13:13] haha [18:13:15] that's funny [18:13:17] you'll see why in a moment [18:14:35] Nova's GT IP: 24.168.45.216 [18:15:00] Oh! i have the port wrong [18:15:12] okayokay [18:15:14] hang on [18:15:17] check this: http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=dfttx288_13rxqghd4x [18:15:36] Stilcan't connect [18:15:42] awwwwww [18:16:01] I'll host [18:16:08] 76.126.71.112 [18:16:08] - [18:16:09] 6812 [18:16:38] Morgan does all this art, and crafting stuff with yarn [18:16:44] Man, I forgot that 4e orcs are acutally supposed to be pretty threatening. I need to get out of this mindset [18:16:46] hee [18:16:50] I was struck dumb by that cuteness though. [18:16:50] ._. [18:18:01] how were orcs not threatening before? humanoid monsters were as threatening as their class levels [18:19:30] Well, that's the thing. [18:19:38] It was the class that was threatening, not the orc. [18:19:57] I dunno. As a player, I was always more scared of humanoids than monsters. [18:20:11] If I saw, say, a dragon. You can tell how hard the fight is gonna be by looking at it. [18:20:12] Well, that's because humanoids exist as a chassis for class levels [18:20:25] A human could be a 1st level warrior or a 20th level fighter. [18:20:33] Man, if a beholder has some fighter levels in 3.5, watch out because shit's about to get *crazy* [18:20:42] haha [18:20:47] Monk levels [18:21:01] * Ryumaru expected DnD chat. xD [18:21:05] I prefer fighter because I imagine that beholder plate armor would look like a basketball [18:21:06] ^Exalted chat [18:21:15] Yeah, you could add class levels to everything, but you knew that the DM HAD to add class levels to humanoids if you were fighting them at any level past, say, 5. [18:21:28] Man, we haven't played Exalted here in, like, four years. :( [18:21:33] haha [18:21:33] Only four? [18:21:33] * Plow thinks we're terribly misleading like that. [18:21:41] Hehehe. [18:21:47] * Ryumaru was just generally searching for a game. [18:21:50] I don't think we've TALKED about Exalted since I've been here. [18:21:55] I like to think Exalted refers to the channel regulars rather than the system. :| [18:21:55] Haha [18:22:02] Heehee [18:22:07] Actually, yeah, more than four. At least since I was in college [18:24:02] I realize how little Plow is invested in the food plot. [18:24:08] Hahaha [18:24:09] There were a couple planned games but they went nowhere. [18:24:20] Not only is food such a nonfactor for him, but he basically tagged along because he's interested in dungeons and treasure. [18:24:25] Yeah. I don't think we've even STARTED an Exalted campaign since 2002. [18:24:41] Yeah [18:24:43] I think Charles mentioned to me, out of channel, a potential Exalted game here [18:24:45] but it never panned out [18:25:56] Aww. [18:26:17] well I'm stumped. [18:26:19] I mean... [18:26:24] Sure we should still help them but [18:26:30] What the hell do we do about Odal's Fen? [18:26:50] It's cool. [18:26:54] We'll loot a ton of food from the orcs. [18:26:59] Send it back on ships. [18:27:04] Plow will look on with disinterest. [18:27:55] We help them, and we don't send the food back to Odal's Fen ourselves. [18:28:28] Paera and the other ritualists can help make stuff grow until they can be self sufficient [18:28:34] * Plow doesn't do food. [18:28:35] @_@ [18:28:39] But seriously, I could. [18:28:40] So yeah, sure. [18:30:26] I'm eyeing the section of Conservapedia that links to articles on Heresies. It's...missing something. :V [18:30:40] oh awesome [18:30:46] they're fucking racist dwarves [18:30:59] Heresies? [18:31:32] * Plow apparently makes an appearance for the dwarves, too. [18:31:54] Nova: To be fair, their only experience with orcs in their entire history was probably orcs trying to kill them and take their shit [18:32:00] Yeah [18:32:04] Eve's agreeing with them [18:32:12] That's my only experience with Dwarves. [18:32:15] So an orc showing up and asking for them to give them their shit just seems like a different approach to the same problem [18:32:24] But I, knowing what you've said about these Nerathi orcs, am just groaning [18:32:30] You should really stay away from that carnival, Matt. :| [18:32:58] Dem: Well the section is clearly lacking the Horus Heresy, and obviously something should be done about this. :I [18:33:03] hahahaha [18:33:07] Hahahhaha [18:33:14] Do you need an account to make a page? [18:33:18] It's a good thing Eve isn't a 3e paladin. She'll probably be loping off innocent orc heads by the end of this. [18:33:32] Nah, she'd just spam detect evil like danmaku [18:33:38] oh, true [18:33:44] I wonder if they have a section on AI we can write to be about Abominable Intelligences [18:33:52] It's a good thing Eve isn't a 3e paladin. She'd have destroyed a good drama. [18:34:04] You have to register but it seems fairly easy to do so. [18:34:04] :toot: [18:34:10] I'm hosting GT right now, by the way [18:34:17] my host didn't work? [18:34:17] That'd be great [18:34:20] If I tried to run this plot in 3e, I'd have had to have the orcs encased in lead [18:34:28] hahaha [18:35:04] Cyborks are good [18:35:37] Encasing something in lead means that you have something to hide from Superman, so therefore you're definitely up to no good. :colbert: [18:36:28] 28 minutes til I have WAR [18:36:42] Guys, I'll BRB [18:36:46] You know, that guy seemed too enamored with it, and there definately seems to be some pretentious metacommentary about gaming in there, but The Path actually sounds like it could be an actual art game [18:37:00] Like, unlike everything else those guys have made, it sounds like it has *content* [18:37:04] Yeah. [18:37:07] I'm surprised. [18:37:15] Maybe they're learning [18:37:23] I'd be suprised [18:37:38] They sounded pretty satisfied about making games without content [18:37:49] True [18:39:17] (Still BRBing. Just assume Plow is wanting to get to see these orcs, sooner than later) [18:40:50] Does the chair leg menace with anything? [18:43:02] Spikes of bread. [18:43:32] The Path? [18:43:55] The art game that Dem linked a pseudo-review of a while ago [18:43:56] http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/03/11/what-cruel-teeth-youve-got-the-path-impressions/ [18:44:26] By a group that's previously put out such games as: Being an old lady in a graveyard, sitting on a bench, getting up, and leaving a graveyard [18:44:39] And: Being a horse thing in a forest and smelling other horse things [18:44:47] And mooing :V [18:45:06] heh [18:45:17] Oh those guys [18:45:23] I remember that [18:46:15] Oh yeah, just so you guys know... I didn't let the dwarf know that was a magic basket [18:46:29] I basically consider them a cancer on the face of game design, but The Path sounds like they've reversed the good idea/stupid idea ratio [18:46:36] Did you fill it with snakes? :( [18:46:36] Oh, right, Cha, you asked about Conservapedia and AI...well... [18:46:41] Dem, what's your IP:Port for GT again? [18:46:49] [18:16:08] 76.126.71.112 [18:46:49] [18:16:08] - [18:46:49] [18:16:09] 6812 [18:46:52] Artificial intelligence was most popular between the 60's and the 80's, when computers were still new and misunderstood. Notably the homosexual Alan Turing, who shortly thereafter committed suicide, was responsible for much of the fever of attempting to create intelligent computers, with his publication of the paper proposing the Turing Test. This fever quickly subsided, when it was proven, predictably, that AI was impossible. [18:47:03] hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahah [18:47:35] That HAS to be a fakepost [18:47:36] I don't think an article on abominable intelligence would be out of place at all. :V [18:47:57] Yeah [18:48:05] Could be. It reads like everything else on Conservapedia. [18:48:07] Honestly, I think a series of articles about Warhammer 40k should probably be snuck up on there [18:48:25] And you never know when it's THIS IS WHAT CONSERVATIVES REALLY BELIEVE or a troll. [18:48:34] I'm pretty sure that everything on Conservapedia is a fakepost, even if the people posting it don't know it [18:49:44] I just told them that it would feed 6 people. [18:49:50] They don't know it'll refill [18:51:11] we all said assistance too much [18:53:10] I only mention this so that if the rest of the party doesn't want me just handing over a magic item, they can do something about it without being mean [18:53:31] Well, we'll probably get it back later if we can fix this [18:53:34] I don't mind [18:53:36] THink of it as an investment. [18:53:47] <_< [18:53:55] We invest food, and we get food back later. [18:54:10] Let's just hope that our food dividends aren't paid for by food submitted by other investors. [18:56:12] * Paera tosses the dwarf and his children into a pit leading to the Nine Hells. [18:59:19] I can't stay connected to GT, by the way [18:59:31] Damn [18:59:37] Maybe Nova should host after all? [18:59:47] I tried hosting [18:59:53] noticed no one was connected [18:59:56] I'm still hosting [19:00:28] I have no good way to illustrate Plow's annoyance at the phrase "Nerathi traitors." [19:00:35] Except more gestures, I guess. [19:00:51] Damn [19:01:02] Nova: www.canyouseeme.org [19:01:12] Try to put in your port and see if that site can do it [19:03:17] Is anyone else losing interest in Order of the Stick? [19:03:34] A little, I guess [19:03:34] nope [19:03:59] Mostly because I never really liked the elf whose name I can't recall as a characer [19:04:00] I don't have the password for my router since I formatted [19:04:12] So focusing on him for a month isn't the best way to keep my interest [19:04:14] I'm nope [19:04:19] Varsuvius [19:04:30] Heh [19:04:36] The password shouldn't have changed [19:04:41] Did you ever change your router password? [19:04:46] yeah but I have cookies [19:04:48] You cna probably look up your factory default password [19:04:59] I entered it once and forgot about it [19:05:14] Wow, I thought his name was Xan, and I was ready to be all "Man I fuckin' hate Xan" [19:05:27] Then I remembered that's probably the name of Rusty's character in my game [19:05:40] hahahaha [19:06:38] http://www.mediafire.com/?hk0egzkzmky Hahahahahahah oh wow. (Touhou/300 doujin) [19:06:53] awesome [19:07:05] Oh man, it's by Wiz garage? [19:07:11] I hope we see more Garisa [19:09:43] Oh my. http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/kotaku/full/~3/_Y8s7UsKqQU/new-samus-cosplay-international-champion-cr owned [19:10:53] (I'm a little idle) [19:11:42] brb [19:12:02] Yeah, you guys can take a quick pee break or something [19:12:12] coo [19:12:13] Describing this bad larry might take me upwards of five minutes [19:12:20] bad larry? [19:12:39] It's just one of Cha's phrases. [19:12:49] ... that's odd. The 300 thing isn't available at Gensokyo.org [19:14:06] "The 300 thing"? [19:14:26] [19:06:38] http://www.mediafire.com/?hk0egzkzmky Hahahahahahah oh wow. (Touhou/300 doujin) [19:20:19] I wish I were good at describing stuff. [19:20:27] My youkai game can't stand up to this. [19:23:44] Aaaahahaahahha You there! What is your profession? Swindler! -_- NEET. [19:24:06] Hahahahah [19:24:19] hahahahahahaha [19:27:08] This is all underground, neh? [19:27:25] Yeah [19:28:12] keh. [19:32:36] so basiucally, the whole mountain is hollow? [19:32:48] -u [19:32:54] (sorry, i'll be RPing again in a moment) [19:33:10] A huge amount of it, at least, yeah [19:33:47] There's probably enough structure left to make it so that its own weight (and shit like earthquakes) doesn't bring it all down, but it's basically the shell of a mountain [19:34:16] Alrighty, I'm back. [19:34:18] Re [19:34:33] You're underground, so there's a pretty strong chance you'd either be inside solid rock or a fomorian kingdom in the Feywild. :| [19:34:57] :( [19:35:17] Neither of which is fun. [19:36:50] So, uh, just to double check, Gametable's still down, right? [19:37:38] think so [19:37:45] Nova's is, yeah [19:37:48] Mine is still up [19:37:50] I can't host cause I can't access my router [19:39:02] Yeah, Dem's is working [19:39:07] I like that underlay [19:39:16] Assuming Fillis is on dem's table right now [19:39:35] Mind if I clear the table? [19:39:36] Oh [19:39:37] nm [19:39:39] Oh yeah, for all the DMs out there. If you have an underlay that's meant to be moved around on, you should lock it. [19:39:52] You can go ahead and clear it [19:39:58] Good adiv,e thanks [19:40:17] http://zip.4chan.org/tg/src/1236825119452.jpg [19:42:05] THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS [19:43:11] Nova: That underlay is actually from Keep on the Shadowfell. I wanted to see if I could use the entire map as an underlay. [19:43:17] But there was just not way to get it to work right [19:43:21] Yeah [19:43:28] I ended up taking the single bit I wanted. [19:43:28] I tried doing that with Expedition to the Demonweb Pits [19:43:54] underlays that size just slow the program down, and I had to futz with the image to get it sized properly and had to split it up [19:44:09] But that looks like a nice scalign job [19:44:10] The thing that really disappoints me is that I can't use the map for the BBEG. [19:44:18] Any advice for splitting it up? [19:45:35] no [19:45:43] I did a terrible job [19:46:00] Place your pogs where you are when you're at/near the bottom of the stairs [19:46:14] Also, could anyone with pog-fu pog up these two real quick? [19:46:42] i had to spend to healing surges to get back to full [19:46:46] so I'm at 2 surges [19:46:56] two* [19:48:30] http://heroesofmightandmagic.com/gallery.php?game=heroes5&image=heroes/erling&back=toe_fortress_heroes.s html and http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/images/hero-icons/Fortress_Vegeyr_128.jpg [19:48:54]