Session Start: Mon May 10 17:21:49 2010 Session Ident: #Odal [17:54:21] * When last we left our heroes, they were being talked at by a being manifested by the wall, who related that the temple was created by a dead race, the Aurena, who made it to protect relics of the newly-ascended Vecna from his worshippers, and sank it when the struggle became too desperate [17:55:17] "So... you are not the Eye." [17:56:30] "No, she's not." she replied, and moved toward the figure. "Hmm" [17:58:44] * The creature nods, seemingly not fazed as Kouri moves towards it. "Not the Eye." [17:58:52] [Session start] 01[17:59:35] Don't you feel so much better, Eve? 06[18:00:32] * Paera folds her arms. "See, if you'd stopped to think about it for a minute..." [18:00:49] "I am feeling lightheaded. I must have been imagining things." 06[18:01:23] * Eve_Kasnora shakes her head and looks at Paera and Elena. "Friends! I have not been seeing you for many days!" [18:01:29] "How was trip?" 06[18:01:46] * Eve_Kasnora goes over and hugs Paera and Elena hello. 06[18:04:18] * Paera blinks. "Eve?" 01[18:04:41] Absolutely fascinating. We should see if we can reproduce the results. 06[18:04:45] * Kouri_Alkytha glanced to the reunion, and shrugged, looking to the figure directly. "You said that you had the Hand? Is it still safe here?" [18:06:04] * She shakes her head. "Not safe. Others in temple." [18:06:53] "Others? Then we should secure it immediately!" She replied. "Once that's done, perhaps we should find a safer place to seal the Hand away." [18:07:18] O-others? I thought we were the first ones in- 06[18:07:21] * Tarpaulin is tagging along. 01[18:07:31] Then I suppose it is fortunate we arrived when we did. 06[18:07:32] * Eve_Kasnora interrupts herself from continuing the reunion and puts a hand on her swords. [18:07:45] "Is the Hand here? Yes, no?" [18:08:02] "There are several, Lady Eve!" [18:08:19] * The creature nods. "Yes." 06[18:09:03] * Kouri_Alkytha sighed, tapping her feet and she looked back to the others. "Stick around if you want. I'm looking for the Hand and the intruders. Perhaps you can show me where they are?" she addressed the temple-avatar 06[18:13:23] * Eve_Kasnora stares at Kouri, still with her hand ready on her sword. "Who is saying they are sticking around?" [18:13:30] The temple-avatar reaches down to the floor, and pulls up a model of the temple complex. After pausing for a second with its eyes closed, it pulls, from the top of the temple, models of various creatures. Octopoidal creatures inhabit one wing, while strange, fanged fishmen live in the depths of it. The undead live in the entrance, and what seems to be a stranged, unearthly tentacled creature live in the depths below the fish-men. [18:13:51] Finally, she makes a model of herself above one of the wings of the temple. [18:14:08] "Can you make a path for us so that we can be breathing?" 01[18:15:25] Surrounded on all sides by enemies? [18:16:24] The avatar nods. "Much of the temple still has breathing." She points at the octopoidal area. "Some water." She points at the unearthly creature's area. "Much water." [18:17:02] "Where is Hand?" [18:18:09] The avatar points at the unearthly place. "The Hand is here." 06[18:18:38] * Tarpaulin entwines his fingers, "Perhaps I could help? I do not need to breathe." [18:18:40] (Confused by textmap) [18:21:39] (It's not a map so much, but if it helps, imagine it as a core building with two large wings. Front half of the core has undead. Back half has fishmen. This wing is under the temple's control, the opposite is controlled by octopi) [18:21:50] (And under the fishmen are Far Realm things) 06[18:23:20] * Eve_Kasnora frowns. [18:23:28] "Wherever we are going, we are going together." 06[18:23:57] * Tarpaulin salutes, "Teamwork!" 06[18:24:57] * Paera nods. 01[18:24:58] Oh, I agree. Dividing our forces now would be hazardous. 01[18:25:05] Are all these forces... allies of each other? [18:25:52] The avatar shakes her head. "No." [18:26:49] "Then the best option would be to set them against one another, then find the Hand and retrieve it in the chaos." 01[18:28:17] Chaos is strong. 06[18:29:24] * Eve_Kasnora frowns. [18:29:40] "How long have they been living in temple?" [18:34:25] She points at the undead. "Very short." The octopoids: "Long." The fishmen: "Very long." The strange creatures: "Do not know." [18:37:05] "Don't know? Very recently noticed, then?" [18:39:08] The avatar frowns. "They are..." She pauses, and creates another model from the floor, of a line, and then another line that curves back and forth, intersecting with the first line at first. [18:41:02] "She is making with the diagrams. I am not understanding the diagrams. Paera?" [18:41:27] (At points, rather) 06[18:42:27] * Eilenia ponders. "Wavering?" [18:43:48] "No, no, Elena. Paera is the smart one. She reads books on math." 06[18:47:12] * Paera takes a look at the diagram. "They appear and dissapear? Is that what you're saying? They're not always in this world?" [18:48:24] The avatar nods. "Yes." 06[18:48:37] * Eve_Kasnora beams at Paera. 01[18:48:38] Worldfall. [18:49:07] "Yes, that is what Paera said." [18:49:48] "So Hand is being where the monsters are coming and going." 06[18:49:57] * Paera frowns. "Has it always been like this, then? Or was there a first time they appeared?" [18:50:23] "Is Hand always being here, or is is line-with-squiggly-line-crossing-it to?" [18:50:44] * "Hand is here. They were not always here." [18:53:08] "Oh... Are you know what to do with Eye?" [18:54:15] She nods. "The temple stone was meant to hold it." 02[18:54:40] * Tarpaulin (MattonMac@75-147-52-61-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) Quit (Quit: Tarpaulin) [18:58:22] "But... history was proving that wasn't being enough, was it?" 01[19:00:34] What is this temple stone like? [19:00:55] Temple stone makes Vecna not see. [19:01:58] "Is it somehow enchanted? If not, we should be able to contain it somewhere else, safely" [19:02:05] The avatar stops and thinks. "To destroy the Eye, you need Vecna." A map rises from the floor, and a trail cuts far to the east." 06[19:02:20] * Eve_Kasnora 's eyebrows raise. 01[19:03:56] That's how this tends to turn out. I'm not surprised. [19:03:57] ...need Vecna? How? 06[19:04:18] * Eve_Kasnora ponders for a moment, and then digs around in her armored scale coat. She produces the adamantine box forged by the dwarves for her to keep the Eye in. "Can you be... putting piece of temple wall in box? Eye is in box, and if we are needing to leave Temple, I would be liking not to have Vecna seeing his Eye." [19:10:44] The avatar pauses again, as she touches the inside of the box and temple stone coats it. "To destroy Vecna, you need to complete him. To destroy the hand and eye, you need to destroy him." [19:11:16] ... 06[19:11:24] * Eve_Kasnora 's jaw drops, and she starts sputtering. 01[19:11:40] ... that is quite a task. [19:11:54] "Ah-.. ahb...ha-..... c-couldn't we just be finding some Doom Volacno instead?" 06[19:12:40] * Paera stares. "You...you're serious?" 06[19:13:25] * Kouri_Alkytha folded her arms. "That.. is a really clever defense mechanism. And I don't think that'll work, Eve. My people are said to have tried to destroy the eye while we had it. It can't be destroyed by any normal means. That's why my villag ewas founded to keep it blinded and secured." 01[19:13:49] We have heard a means. [19:15:19] ... [19:15:41] "So we are going to be handing the Eye of Vecna.... TO VECNA.... THEN BE STABBING HIM TILL HE FALLS DOWN?!" [19:15:49] "THIS IS PLAN?" [19:16:18] The avatar nods. "It is why it has not been done before." 01[19:16:21] We could simply hide the eye again. 06[19:16:41] * Eve_Kasnora throws her hands up in the air while she rants, then starts pacing and pinching the bridge of her nose while shaking her head. [19:16:51] "Like that has ever been working." [19:16:52] "Not right now. I don't think we could do anything of the sort by ourselves. We need to at least keep them safe. We could return the eye to my village. We might be able to seal it again. I don't know." 01[19:17:06] Your village has been compromised. 01[19:17:24] Your village is less safe than if we were to simply toss it in the woods. [19:17:51] "At least... At least with temple in this box, we can keep it on move and less likely to be discovered." [19:18:24] "And hand too. We must take it before line-crossing-line things are deciding to take it." [19:23:31] This is crazy...kill Vecna? [19:23:52] "M-maybe if we are praying hard enough to Bahamut he will do it." 06[19:24:15] * Eve_Kasnora shakes her head. "Is.. is it being okay for a mortal to attempt deicide? Even an evil one?" [19:24:29] "Won't.. won't Bahamut be mad at me for thinking it?" 06[19:24:49] * Eve_Kasnora shakes her head, clearly bewildered. 01[19:28:10] Will he? 01[19:29:59] And if he was, what is the worst that could happen? [19:30:34] "He could judge me unfit to worship him." 01[19:30:49] Would you contiue to do so anyway? [19:31:16] "Or.. rightfully smite me from the world for insulting all godkin by even thinking mortals should challenge and defeat one of them." [19:31:44] "I... I might not if he told me not to... " 06[19:32:05] * Eve_Kasnora doesn't seem to be feeling any better. [19:33:05] The avatar removes her hand from the box, leaving it coated in living stone, and looks on, passively. "It has happened before." 06[19:34:34] * Eve_Kasnora blinks at looks at the Avatar. "Mortals killed a god before?" [19:34:56] "Indeed, but I don't imagine it's something that you can just do because you want to." [19:37:38] It pauses, recalling the ancient memory. "According to the Aurena, Vecna's followers killed many." She pauses. "It was a war." [19:39:02] "Vecna's followers slew many Gods?" she asked. "Then why have the Gods not acted against Vecna?" [19:40:33] They...they what?! 01[19:41:11] Many? [19:41:54] "Every god is..." She pauses, and the floor raises into a dome, with points of light linked together. "They could not, or else others would come." The dome shatters, and a mass of stony tentacles push through, before the display sinks into the floor. [19:42:17] "Wait... wait.." [19:42:29] "Vecna has worshipers strong enough to kill gods?!" [19:43:08] "Plural?!" 01[19:43:11] Every god is... dependent? Is that it? [19:43:26] The avatar pauses. "Unknown. Vecna had worshippers strong enough to kill gods." [19:44:15] The avatar nods at Eilenia. "Yes." [19:46:18] But...not so dependent that they're affected in the same way when mortals kill gods? 06[19:47:13] * Kouri_Alkytha frowned. "In that case, then there's really only one option. Even if you all aren't going to try for it, I've got an obligation to do something about the Eye being on the loose. It seems like we need a means of gaining that sort of power for ourselves." [19:48:01] The avatar looks at Paera. "If a mortal kills a god, there is little to be done. A god would never take the risk of letting others in." [19:49:25] "Okay wait. I think it's still talking funny." [19:49:37] "Did mortals kill a god before?" [19:49:57] "Letting others in?" What would happen if a god killed another god, exactly? [19:53:45] It pauses. "There are others. Outside the world. Gods help gods keep them out. If a god killed another god, they would come in." [19:55:39] But...I don't understand. Does that not happen if a mortal kills the god? 01[19:56:12] The Far Realm? 01[19:56:19] Or... the demons? [19:57:42] It nods. "The Far Realm." [19:58:26] "If a mortal kills a god, it is bad. If a god does kills a god, it is worse." The avatar pauses. "The gods must work together to hold back the Far Realm." [20:02:03] "So... is killing Vecna worse than *not* killing Vecna?" [20:02:57] "It's something to think about." she looked to the Avatar. "What do you know o fthat?" [20:05:14] It shakes its head. "Nothing." 01[20:06:35] It seems the situation is on morally shaky grounds 01[20:09:24] How will you decide, Eve? 06[20:12:02] * Eve_Kasnora frowns. Then she nods at Paera. "She is being the smart one." [20:12:21] "I know my path, at least." she looked to the others. "But for now, you can make your decisions. But I think we can all agree that we need to get the hand to a secure location." [20:12:38] "But wait. Temple. You were saying that mortals were killing gods before, yes?" [20:14:52] * It nods. "Yes." [20:17:14] "What was happening when mortals killed god before?" 06[20:18:34] * Paera gives a start. "Wait, I'm not making your decisions for you!" [20:20:59] "Unsure." 06[20:22:24] * Kouri_Alkytha shrugged, and glanced at the map, then started down the hall at a casual pace, placing a hand to her head and giving it a shake. This debate was getting tiresome and going nowhere. 06[20:22:32] * Eve_Kasnora frowns at Paera. "Since when is the choice to commit deicide suddenly being MY decision?!" [20:23:02] "The temple sunk. The Aurena disappeared. Their works were striken from the earth. That is where my records end." 06[20:23:36] * Eve_Kasnora thinks for a moment. "Elena, aren't you having an artifact that is smarter than Paera? Maybe you should be asking it what would be happening if mortal was killing a god." 01[20:23:46] Certainly. [20:23:55] I'm saying you should just decide for yourself, like we all have to! 06[20:24:11] * Eilenia brings out the Ioun stone, and gets it hovering around her head. "What are the consequences if a mortal were to kill Vecna? Positives and negatives, please." [20:26:30] * The Ioun Stone grinds and whistles. [Negatives: Possible planar disjunction. Positives: Planar disjunction chance relatively small.] The stone speeds in its rotation 01[20:27:04] Something occurs to me, Eve. 01[20:27:12] Coldheart attempted to pull the planes apart already. [20:31:58] "Yes this disfunction is what the trial on Machine Icarus was all about." 02[20:32:13] * Kouri_Alkytha (Mibbit@h51.23.16.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 01[20:32:43] Coldheart had turned to the worship of Vecna. [20:34:25] "Oh, I was forgetting about that." [20:34:57] "So... Vecna is wanting a planar disfunction. And killing him causes a planar disfunction." 01[20:35:24] Was the disjunction waht he wanted, or a side effect of a true plan? [20:40:02] (This seems like it might be a good place to end it) 01[20:41:26] ( Alright ) [20:42:22] [Session end] Session Close: Tue May 11 00:00:00 2010