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[18:33:31] <Demota> I guess we can split the conversation. AE, what else do you have in mind for your concept? Like a 
  caste or whatever
[18:34:03] <Alt-Eisen> Well I dunno what's the setting like
[18:34:11] <Alt-Eisen> Modern?
[18:34:14] <Alt-Eisen> Fantasy?
[18:34:20] <Kentaro> I think my character's name will be Whispering Orchid
[18:34:25] <Kentaro> Super high fantasy.
[18:34:28] <Alt-Eisen> Ah
[18:34:30] <Kentaro> It takes place in the distant, distant past
[18:34:46] <Kentaro> Hyper-animistic, and magic shapes the world.
[18:34:58] <Kentaro> There are five directions, each of which is tied to an element
[18:35:09] <Alt-Eisen> Well since I have Queen playing on winamp.  Could I make a Highlander-like PC?
[18:35:14] <Kentaro> If you walk far enough in that direction, you'll find the world becoming that element.
[18:35:15] <Demota> Let's keep it to info he only needs this evening
[18:35:27] <Kentaro> Or you'll get kidnapped by the fey and tortured to death, one or the other
[18:35:29] * Kentaro nods
[18:35:29] <Demota> AE: Beards are banned from the setting
[18:35:36] <Alt-Eisen> Beards?
[18:35:45] <Kentaro> Unless you mean in the sense of a straight marriage to cover up a gay relationship
[18:35:51] <Demota> That's what you meant by Highlander-like, right?
[18:35:57] <Kentaro> In which case they're very common on the Blessed Isle. :|
[18:36:04] <Alt-Eisen> Basically a dude whose really good with a sword
[18:36:17] <Alt-Eisen> Doesn't have to be a huge sword :P
[18:36:28] <Demota> Actually, Exalted does have huge swords that you can use.
[18:36:33] <Alt-Eisen> Oh
[18:36:33] <Demota> They're called Daiklaives.
[18:36:46] <Kentaro> Yeah. And they're not offensively retarded because they're justified in-setting :toot:
[18:36:47] * Alt-Eisen looks that up
[18:37:30] <Alt-Eisen> ah
[18:37:58] <Kentaro> Basically, they're unusable by mortals, because they're so unweildy
[18:38:28] <Kentaro> But Exalts can use them because they can invest some of their personal magic into mystically linking 
  it to them, and making it less of a burden
[18:38:42] <Demota> The only major issue with them is that carrying one around pretty much shouts out your identity. 
[18:38:54] <Demota> Since there's no reason anyone would carry one around.
[18:39:02] <Kentaro> Yeah
[18:39:09] <Demota> Not unless they were a trader in artifacts.
[18:39:13] <Alt-Eisen> could I go with the kimono claw guy then?
[18:39:18] <Demota> Yeah
[18:39:20] <Kentaro> Only magic people can do that kinda shit
[18:39:21] <Kentaro> Yeah
[18:39:41] <Kentaro> (A god-blood might have a daiklaive, but that's *still* a notable person, even if they're the least 
  notable notable people)
[18:39:58] <Demota> I think it's just gonna be you and Charles tonight, though, if YOn's gonna sit out. Though I guess if 
  we run again in the future, this might be an "introductory" thing
[18:40:13] <Alt-Eisen> hmmm
[18:40:45] <Yon2> I'm trying to think, I don't really want to sitout sitout.
[18:41:00] <Kentaro> I think Whispering Orchid's gonna be a ladyboy
[18:41:16] <Demota> aah
[18:41:29] <Alt-Eisen> Maybe I should play a girl to further myself from the Mousse thing
[18:41:30] <Kentaro> Because if I'm gonna do Exalted, I'm gonna do the fuck out of Exalted
[18:42:47] <Yon2> I did have that 'superhero' character that I was planning the last time we tried to run Exalted. But 
  Cha's already going Night Caste.
[18:43:00] <Kentaro> I could be Eclipse, maybe
[18:43:05] <Kentaro> Or we could have two Nights
[18:43:14] <Kentaro> Those seem like different enough concepts, at least
[18:43:22] <Yon2> And then there was that other unused character concept I had for Exalted but then I played Shadow 
  Hearts and found out he already existed. :(
[18:43:24] <Kentaro> I was seeing Whispering Orchid as more of a spy.
[18:43:35] <Demota> Yon: JOachim?
[18:43:39] <Yon2> Yes.
[18:43:58] <Demota> Wow. Lucky guess.
[18:44:39] <Yon2> Apart from not being a vampire he was the exact same fucking character.
[18:44:51] <Demota> aw
[18:45:01] <Demota> Well, I haven't played Shadow Hearts. 
[18:45:17] <Yon2> (oh, and he didn't beat people with mailboxes)
[18:45:24] <Demota> hahahaa
[18:45:37] <Demota> And... uh... there'll probably be some breaks with established Exalted canon as I COMPLETELY FORGET 
  THINGS.
[18:45:42] <Demota> So sorry for any msses.
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[18:45:54] <Demota> AE: Any idea on a caste?
[18:46:01] <Alt-Eisen> dunno
[18:46:09] <Demota> Dawn - Fighty
[18:46:11] <Demota> Nighy - Sneaky
[18:46:14] <Demota> Eclipse - Talky
[18:46:19] <Demota> Twilight - Smarty
[18:46:34] <Kentaro> Zenith = Holy
[18:46:39] <Demota> Thanks.
[18:46:39] <Alt-Eisen> Dawn maybe
[18:47:16] <Kentaro> I think Whispering Orchid might use a pair of orichalcum needles as his weapons.
[18:47:28] <Kentaro> He might have had them as a hair ornament from before his Exaltation
[18:47:40] <Alt-Eisen> How can a play a PC whose new to the world as I am?
[18:48:25] <Demota> Like... amnesia?
[18:48:31] <Alt-Eisen> dunno
[18:48:40] <Alt-Eisen> maybe
[18:48:44] <Darkheart> Wanna know something funny?
[18:48:50] <Demota> How thin are these needles?
[18:48:52] <Darkheart> I've never played a SOlar for more than, like, 3 sessions.
[18:48:58] <Darkheart> How long did I play a raksha?
[18:48:58] <Demota> heh
[18:49:01] <Darkheart> *2 YEARS*.
[18:49:03] <Demota> :O
[18:49:06] <Demota> And going?
[18:49:14] <Darkheart> No, she got calcified by the Bishop.
[18:49:20] <Darkheart> And was plottified into a mortal.
[18:49:29] <Demota> Aw.
[18:49:30] <Darkheart> Who... promptly exalted saving another PC.
[18:49:33] <Demota> hahhaha
[18:49:43] <Demota> Normally I don't like Amnesia, but in this case, it might be alright since you're new to the world.
[18:50:32] <Kentaro> Dem: You know how some girls use chopsticks to put their hair up?
[18:50:35] <Kentaro> I was thinking like that
[18:50:39] * Demota nods
[18:50:41] <Demota> Sounds cool
[18:51:01] <Alt-Eisen> hmmm
[18:51:08] <Kentaro> But that seemed like a modern affectation, so I figured it'd be better to have decorative needles 
  than weaponized chocksticks
[18:51:23] <Alt-Eisen> letsee.  Other weapon ideas.   Flute.   Biwa/hidden sword
[18:52:09] <Alt-Eisen> should I stick with the claws?
[18:52:18] <Demota> It's up to you. Honestly, with the way this system works?
[18:52:22] <Demota> You can have them ALL.
[18:52:53] <Alt-Eisen> Maybe the claws as my "deadly" weapon and the flute as my "subdual" weapon
[18:53:24] <Demota> At 7, we'll start systemetizing these.
[18:53:42] <Alt-Eisen> I'd probably get objections if I had her dress like a miko, right?
[18:53:48] <Demota> Not really, no.
[18:53:53] <Alt-Eisen> ah k
[18:54:38] <Kentaro> It's kind of out of setting, but what the hell.
[18:54:58] <Demota> DH: What'd she Exalt into, anyway?
[18:55:09] <Kentaro> Given how Exalted works, there could easily be some god that has that as their follower's uniforms
[18:55:23] <Kentaro> I'm suprised they didn't borrow from Shinto imagery more with the Imperial cult, actually
[18:55:54] <Demota> Yeah
[18:56:01] <Demota> They've got REALLY good outfits
[18:56:29] <Demota> Okay, let's see.
[18:56:46] <Kentaro> That reminds me, since I'm blowing off that teaching in Japan seminar tomorrow, I should go to Manch 
  to find that Buddhist temple
[18:57:07] <Demota> I'll give you guys 12 Ranks of strengths and 1 rank of Weakness.
[18:57:12] * Kentaro nods
[18:57:15] <Demota> Then one free Master rank.
[18:57:26] <Kentaro> Master is +6?
[18:57:31] <Alt-Eisen> hmmm
[18:57:32] <Demota> Yeah
[18:57:44] <Alt-Eisen> lemme look at the rules again
[19:00:37] <Alt-Eisen> how's this work?
[19:00:54] <Demota> Is that going to precede something that you're going to list, or do you want me to explain it?
[19:01:12] <Alt-Eisen> explain the system plz
[19:01:30] <Demota> Alright.
[19:01:59] <Demota> You have twelve Ranks of strengths and... ugh. Okay. I'm just gonna call it points. This is terrible 
  wording.
[19:02:12] <Demota> You have twelve points of strengths.
[19:02:29] <Demota> The system is centered around something called Qualities.
[19:02:43] <Demota> These are things like...
[19:02:45] <Demota> Swordsman.
[19:02:49] <Demota> Or Charmer
[19:02:56] <Demota> Or Fire Mage.
[19:03:01] <Demota> You make the word up yourself.
[19:03:09] <Alt-Eisen> ah so I don't have to cover all those bases that are in the rules?
[19:03:17] <Demota> "those bases"?
[19:03:20] <Alt-Eisen> Physical, Social, etc
[19:03:53] <Demota> Yeah, that's just there as a categorization system.
[19:03:58] <Demota> Ignore it for now
[19:03:58] <Alt-Eisen> ah k
[19:04:27] <Demota> Anyway, assign points to each Quality. It's gotta be an even number.
[19:04:39] <Demota> You also get one Quality for free at the maximum (6) possible rank.
[19:04:50] <Demota> You also get a Weakness. Denote it with a -2.
[19:04:54] <Alt-Eisen> ah
[19:04:56] <Demota> Weak, Slow, etc
[19:05:29] <Alt-Eisen> is that where I put the Amnesia?
[19:06:13] <Demota> If you want, yeah, but that's really more a part of your character where it's impossible
[19:06:18] <Demota> er.
[19:06:21] <Demota> Not impossible
[19:06:27] <Demota> It's not something you'd be penalized on a roll on
[19:06:33] <Alt-Eisen> ah
[19:06:40] <Demota> These Qualities and the numbers associated with them are rolled
[19:08:55] <Demota> How do you figure you'll spread them?
[19:09:50] <Alt-Eisen> +4 +4 +6 +4?
[19:09:58] <Alt-Eisen> yeah I'm boring
[19:10:02] <Demota> That's fine.
[19:10:14] <Demota> Go ahead and put this in a google doc then Share it with me.
[19:10:17] <Demota> Is your character done?
[19:10:21] <Alt-Eisen> nope
[19:10:35] <Demota> Charles, what about you?
[19:12:04] <Kentaro> I'm looking at buddhist temple websites, so no
[19:12:16] <Demota> Alright
[19:12:27] <Demota> Let's see if we can get this started in the next... 18 minutes
[19:12:43] <Alt-Eisen> mind if I just DCC or post here?   The sheet is kinda small to put on docs
[19:13:02] <Yon2> Yeah, sorry, I just can't do it in this situation.
[19:13:06] <Demota> You can DCC and I'll put it up
[19:13:07] * Demota nods
[19:13:09] <Demota> It's alright.
[19:13:17] <Demota> maybe the next time a game fails to run, you can join us
[19:14:12] <Alt-Eisen> And I forgot to mention the claws and flute >.<
[19:14:23] <Demota> S'fine
[19:14:27] <Alt-Eisen> Maybe I'll just use the flute
[19:14:36] <Alt-Eisen> the claws don't suit a little girl
[19:14:49] <Alt-Eisen> wait
[19:14:52] <Demota> Tao is fnie with claws
[19:14:56] <Demota> Nya.
[19:16:41] <Alt-Eisen> could I be a summoner?
[19:17:10] <Alt-Eisen> I got a bit of an idea even if its a bit of a yank from a videogame
[19:17:30] <Yon2> Yes, you can be a summoner. You can, in fact, get someone to make your character for you and insist you 
  MUST be a summoner even though it's contrary to your character concept. :|
[19:17:44] <Demota> I don't get it. :(
[19:17:46] <Yon2> (ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETH)
[19:17:49] <Demota> Oh. 
[19:17:53] <Kentaro> Aaahhahahaha
[19:17:54] <Demota> Summoning's got a few restrictions here.
[19:17:55] <Alt-Eisen> wha?
[19:18:31] <Demota> You can summon two things. Demons or elementals.
[19:18:37] <Yon2> AE: A while ago, I was making a character for an Exalted campaign. I asked for help from a guy who used 
  to frequent this channel who was really good at mechanical stuff.
[19:18:53] <Alt-Eisen> What's the difference?
[19:19:14] <Yon2> I had all the character concept stuff done, I just wanted help making a character who was competent, 
  since Exalted is...kind of complicated, chargen wise.
[19:19:19] <Demota> They're both kinda dangerous to summon. Demons are bad stuff if they manage to break loose.
[19:19:36] <Demota> Elementals are less likely to want to hurt you, but elementals have important jobs to do.
[19:19:49] <Alt-Eisen> Hmmmm
[19:20:00] <Demota> It's also less "Let's do a Final Fantasy summon attack" and more "I command you to perform this duty"
[19:20:09] <Yon2> Now, the character was supposed to be a sorceror who refused to ever use summoning, since she'd Exalted 
  while being about to be sacrificed by a demon cult.
[19:20:12] <Alt-Eisen> ah
[19:20:46] <Yon2> He insisted that she MUST have demon summoning, because all sorcerors must have demon summoning to be 
  useful, and when I tried to tell him it clashed with the character concept, he FLIPPED THE FUCK OUT ON ME.
[19:20:59] <Demota> Since this is kinda last minute, I'll let you change stuff freely after this
[19:21:06] <Demota> 9 minutes.
[19:21:33] <Alt-Eisen> can i have like a demon that follows me around, like is bound to my PC via some sort of contract?
[19:21:34] <Kentaro> Alright, let's see.
[19:21:59] <Yon2> Like, he was seriously irate that I would consider asking for his advice and not give him COMPLETE 
  creative control.
[19:22:01] <Alt-Eisen> he can flip back and forth between this realm and the other but has to come to my aid when I call?
[19:22:07] <Demota> Nope.
[19:22:10] <Alt-Eisen> rats
[19:22:12] <Demota> Demons, once summoned, stay summoned.
[19:22:29] <Alt-Eisen> How about the same with an elemental?
[19:23:07] <Demota> I'm not sure, but binding an elemental for a long period of time might not be the greatest idea, 
  since they have important things to do. 
[19:23:25] <Demota> If I remember right, they actively perform duties that keep the world running.
[19:23:37] <Alt-Eisen> Hmmm
[19:24:39] <Kentaro> Whispering Lotus will have Night Caste +6 (Can we take our caste as our master attribute?) Pillow 
  Matters +4, Pharmecopea +2, Thousand Elegant Recitals of Shadowed Hearts +4, Carries Protection +2.
[19:24:41] <Alt-Eisen> no ghost summoning, eh?
[19:24:49] <Kentaro> Carries Protection specifically refers to his needles. :|
[19:25:10] <Demota> haha
[19:25:25] <Kentaro> You can summon ghosts, but that's Necromancy, which is a different type of magic
[19:25:34] <Kentaro> Also, if you summon something, it's just there until you dismiss it
[19:25:36] <Demota> For now, I'm going to say no.
[19:25:39] <Kentaro> Summoning is a lifestyle choice
[19:25:48] <Alt-Eisen> poody
[19:25:57] <Alt-Eisen> Hmmm
[19:26:12] <Kentaro> Can our caste be one of our attributes?
[19:26:19] <Alt-Eisen> I want something to fill the Perveverance Slot
[19:26:27] <Kentaro> If not, I'm gonna have 'Perfect and Elegant Courtesan' as my +6
[19:26:36] <Demota> ... you know what? I'll go ahead and say yes.
[19:26:42] <Alt-Eisen> eh?
[19:26:42] <Demota> But... hm.
[19:26:49] <Kentaro> Hm.
[19:26:54] <Demota> okay, this doesn't affect AE too much
[19:27:02] <Alt-Eisen> Necromancy +6 :D
[19:27:05] <Demota> AE: Your "Master" thing is now "NIght Caste"
[19:27:08] <Demota> er
[19:27:10] <Demota> Dawn Caste
[19:27:21] <Alt-Eisen> can I change?
[19:27:26] <Demota> Since Martila Arts is a Dawn thing, it's unaffected mechanically
[19:27:43] <Alt-Eisen> I could take Twilight
[19:28:18] <Demota> I think your character is fine as is right now
[19:28:30] <Demota> Right now, though, it's 10:30 where Charles lives.
[19:28:32] <Alt-Eisen> Can I send the update?
[19:28:36] <Kentaro> Pillow Matters, for Whispering Orchid, is related both to actually performing the hard parts of his 
  job, and extracting information from people afterwards
[19:28:38] <Demota> I'd like to get this going.
[19:28:43] <Kentaro> And for the weakness, let's say Flighty -2
[19:28:51] <Demota> AE: just summarize the change.
[19:28:54] <Demota> Or put it on google docs
[19:28:59] <Alt-Eisen> k
[19:29:27] <Demota> Part of why I prefer google docs is that it's easier to keep a copy of the file synchornized among 
  players
[19:30:41] <Demota> Charles: Sounds good.
[19:31:31] <Kentaro> Sent an invite, Dem
[19:31:38] <Alt-Eisen> shared
[19:31:39] <Demota> AE: I meant... like... Your "Master skill" would be the caste thing
[19:31:49] <Demota> You'd lose Martial Arts if you went Twilight Caste. 
[19:31:56] <Alt-Eisen> eh?
[19:31:58] <Alt-Eisen> rats
[19:32:05] <Demota> Twilight is Smarts.
[19:32:12] <Demota> Dawn is the art of war
[19:32:48] <Yon2> Well he could take it as his non-master attribute?
[19:33:00] <Alt-Eisen> hows this look?
[19:33:05] <Demota> Yeah, that's true
[19:33:21] <Demota> AE: I mean... by Master, I mean like...
[19:33:30] <Demota> - Dawn Caste (+6)
[19:33:44] <Alt-Eisen> ah
[19:33:48] <Demota> Necromancy isn't done by the Solar Exalted.
[19:33:56] <Alt-Eisen> poody
[19:33:57] <Demota> And dealing with ghosts is pretty shady.
[19:34:22] <Alt-Eisen> how about banishing?
[19:34:25] <Yon2> I thought Solars could do it, just not as well as Abyssals?
[19:34:30] <Demota> Oh. I don't remember
[19:34:36] <Demota> I...
[19:34:49] <Demota> For now, let's stick with simple things. I didn't know the setting very well to begin with.
[19:35:05] <Yon2> I'm fairly certain Solars could get up to second circle necromancy.
[19:35:06] <Demota> And it's been at least four or five years since I've opened up a book in the setting
[19:35:09] * Demota nods
[19:35:27] <Alt-Eisen> how's this one look?
[19:35:29] <Yon2> (just like Abyssals could only get up to second circle sorcery. I think)
[19:35:33] <Alt-Eisen> I axed the Necromancy
[19:35:38] <Kentaro> Yeah, Yon's right
[19:35:42] * Demota nods
[19:35:45] <Yon2> Banishing is largely a Zenith thing.
[19:35:59] <Demota> Alright, so you can have the Necromancy if you want, but it's not generally used for good things.
[19:36:09] <Demota> I have no idea what it does, to be honest.
[19:36:20] <Demota> Dawn Caste covers Martial Artist.
[19:36:28] <Kentaro> Necromancy does a lot of stuff related to the dead
[19:36:35] <Demota> Martial Artist falls under fighting. So if you wanna do Martial Arts, you can do a Dawn Caste roll
[19:36:48] <Demota> Charles: Your sheet checks out
[19:36:56] <Alt-Eisen> I'm slowing us down ._.
[19:37:17] <Demota> Well, we have enough to go
[19:37:24] <Demota> Let's discuss the rest of this in the other channel.
[19:37:28] <Demota> Go ahead and get IC.
[19:37:31] <Alt-Eisen> what should I put in that last slot?
[19:37:40] <Demota> Let me check revisions
[19:39:06] * Alt-Eisen is now known as Kaname
[19:40:53] * Kentaro is now known as Whispering_Orchid