Start of #Exalted buffer: Thu Jan 21 22:47:32 2010 [16:46:54] * Berny (mahamari@adsl-67-125-23-63.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #Exalted [16:47:38] * Berny is now known as Cheeseball [16:48:30] Hey Maha [16:48:34] Whoa, Ange is here. Amazing. [16:48:36] Heya. [16:49:04] I'm seriously passing out over here. Dunno why. [16:51:07] I have an invite to Wave pending on my gmail account, so I'll let you know when it comes in and I've joined [16:51:12] * Demota nods [16:51:31] Are we doing something on Wave? [16:51:35] I haven't logged in in a while [16:51:45] Oh, yeah. Ange's schedule doesn't work for a live game here [16:51:47] I better run to class now, though! [16:51:50] Later [16:51:52] Bye, Ange! [16:51:55] Bye! [16:52:01] So we were gonna see if she was up for Mage or Heroquest [16:52:07] * Ange (anjogiraff@etch-wlan-162.AirBears.Berkeley.EDU) Quit (Quit: Client Exited) [16:52:17] Oh, awesome. [16:57:18] We should see if Ange can get back on after class so we can see if she's actually interested in Mage or Heroquest [16:57:26] Yeah [16:57:35] * Cheeseball nods. [16:57:40] I forgot to ask when she'll be done today [16:58:39] Oh, Maha, did we talk you up with regard to Heroquest? [16:59:02] Pretty sure we didn't talk baout it in anything but hte most general ways [16:59:05] She only hops on Thursdays [16:59:19] Yeah, just some general mentions. [16:59:32] Something about mythology. I'm not sure I got more than that. [17:00:50] Well, it's this fantasy setting that was created in the 60s as a thought experiment to better understand mythology. The description used at one point was 'If Middle Earth was the fantasy setting made by a linguist, Glorantha is the fantasy setting made by a mythologist.' [17:01:56] Like, the setting is all about how people interact with their faith and has a strong focus on the cultures of the world and how their myths shape them. We were going to be starting up a game sometime focusing on the Sartarites, a culture that's sort of reminiscent of real-world celts and norse [17:02:07] Ah, neat. [17:03:23] Hopefully this is where all those Celtic mythology papers I wrote in college help me out. ;P [17:03:28] hee [17:08:00] Hahah [17:08:11] * Rowyn (rowyn2001@66.201.146.49) has joined #Exalted [17:09:12] Basically, the Sartarites are a culture that's very invested in personal freedom. It's their great unspoken virtue, and the defining feature of Orlanth, their cheif god. [17:09:31] Hi [17:09:52] * Cheeseball nods. [17:10:08] Which kinda sucks for them, because very recently, they were taken over by the Lunar Empire, who worships the Red Moon, a lunar goddess that appared a few centuries ago, and broke the pact that said that gods can't do anything new, for fear of breaking the world and letting more Chaos into it [17:10:43] (The Sartarites are opposed to Chaos, seeing it as the nemesis of their gods, while the Lunars view it as a tool to be used.) [17:10:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq4VLwLFXaE Ahahahaha. What? [17:11:17] So for the last 20 years, Sartarites have lived under the dominion of a foreign empire, waiting for their prophecized liberator, and stewing under a puppet-king, after several failed rebellions [17:11:20] And that's where the game starts [17:11:45] For the real world culture metaphor, the Lunars are kinda like Rome with some other flavors mixed in [17:12:55] Arrrgh [17:13:08] Hey, Yon, guess what I found [17:13:17] I *love* when tech support takes you through steps you've already done and stated don't work. [17:13:25] I found the original Firefly commercial that made me decide that it wasn't worth watching. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-KXNS1eu6A [17:17:27] (Particularly because the Lunars are *very* expansionistic and *very* multicultural. They adopt the gods and cultures of areas they conquer) [17:17:40] * Cheeseball nods. [17:18:16] But their base flavor is sorta Greco-Roman, but not quite, sort of like how the Sartarites are sort of Celtic-Norse but have their own vibe [17:20:27] * Cheeseball nods. [17:21:46] (And since we're Sartarites, the specifics of their culture isn't very important anyways, because chances are, our characters hate, fear, and don't understand them. :V) [17:23:01] Does the setting still get updated, or is it more or less in the same place it always was? [17:24:32] I'm honestly not sure [17:24:37] I don't think it has a metaplot [17:25:19] For instance, White Bear, Red Moon, the game that came out before RPGs existed, was about the king of Sartar trying to defend his kingdom from the Lunar Empire [17:25:54] If the war didn't have a canon end before that, the setting hasn't advanced MUCH since then [17:26:02] I have a feeling that it's like 40k, kind of [17:26:17] In that it has a sort of vaguely-defined 'present', and then a lot of past to play around in [17:26:25] Channel's open [17:26:27] * Demota nods [17:26:39] Like, there are books that both detail the second and third ages, up to their points of crisis [17:27:19] Well, the present isn't so vague in this, because we know it's 20 years after the conquest of Sartar, and the world is slouching towards Ragnarok [17:30:50] * Rowyn sighs. [17:31:13] Welp, I semi-gave up and caved and just bought the software that works. [17:31:22] :/ [17:31:25] * Charles nods. :/ [17:31:28] Hopefully I can still argue with the other guys to give me a refund on the software that doesn't [17:31:30] Can you get your credit card to contest the charges? [17:31:47] How can I contest something that I legitimately bought? :P [17:32:20] I mean I'm not saying that I never bought it. I'm saying that what I bought was junk. [17:32:29] And the credit card has nothing to do with buyer beware [17:33:04] I guess [17:37:10] * AFK-Eisen is now known as Alt-Eisen [17:37:18] Oh, here we go. The Lunars are a little like the Romans, Greeks, and Persians, along with their own stuff. Also, this is sorta interesting. Vinga has a symbolic place on the Lightbringers ring, even though Vinga wasn't a Lightbringer [17:37:56] hey AE [17:38:14] yo [17:38:30] Also, 'Flesh Man' is my favorite name for a mythological figure ever [17:39:50] He was one of the Lightbringers, and seems to be a Cassandra figure in Sartarite myth [17:40:31] He was the grandson of the first mortal being, who was killed by Eurmal the trickster when he discovered death. He witnessed the first murder, and it gave him precognitive visions that nobody would believe [17:41:06] Huh. So that's why he's specifically Grandfather MOrtal? [17:41:17] Yeah [17:41:43] Grandfather Mortal is specifically Grandfaher Mortal because he was the first thing to die [17:41:51] * Rowyn (rowyn2001@66.201.146.49) Quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) [17:41:52] I meant the "Grandfather" bit [17:41:57] Aaah, yeah [17:41:59] That too [17:43:27] Huh. [17:43:28] Traditional councils usually have seven [17:43:28] members: Orlanth the Chief, plus three gods and [17:43:28] three goddesses. [17:43:28] Typically, these are: Barntar the Plowman, [17:43:28] Voriof the Shepherd, and Odayla the Hunter; and [17:43:28] Ernalda the earth, Eiritha the Cow Mother, and [17:43:30] Esrola the Grain Goddess. They could also include [17:43:30] Heler the Rain god, Humakt the War god, Urox the [17:43:32] Storm Bull, Harst the Merchant, Yinkin the Alynx, [17:43:32] or others. [17:43:40] Having a Storm Bull worshipper on the council sounds like a TERRIBLE idea [17:47:41] Ugh. I could use some good news. :( [17:48:30] ? :( [17:48:51] Still feeling pretty awful about the Massachussets election. [17:49:02] Then today's supreme court decision [17:50:24] Then just usual stressses going on in personal life [17:50:34] What was the decision? [17:50:54] Corporations no longer have limits on how much they can spend on political campaign contributions [17:51:07] Due to the first amendment and corporate personhood [17:51:30] :( [17:51:35] blah [17:52:17] The only thing going halfway decently lately is that hte Haiti rescue effort hasn't run into any exceptionally dumb setbacks [17:52:33] * Rowyn (rowyn2001@66.201.146.49) has joined #Exalted [17:54:12] hi [17:54:34] Dem: On the upside, hopefully this means we'll eventually see corporations face the downsides of being people. [17:54:37] What happened with the election? Not to dwell on depressing things [17:54:39] Like going to jail. >:( [17:54:56] Yon: The republican won, which gets rid of the filibuster-proof majority for health care reform [17:55:10] Shit. [17:55:20] The late senator Kennedy's seat was taken over by a Republican who used to be a model, running against a Democrat who refused to take the election seriously [17:55:59] The political situation's been constantly almost ABOUT to get better, and then there's a huge letdown. [17:56:51] It's not that she didn't take it seriously, she just kept on fucking it up. She really let the model define her as a person and didn't get the jump on him [17:57:12] It was a badly-run campaign, and hopefully he'll get voted out of office later this year [17:57:32] Yeah, but the damage is done [17:57:54] We won't see another chance for reform in decades, if within our lifetimes at all [17:57:55] Not necessarily [17:58:00] The election still needs to be verified [17:58:03] Which could take weeks [17:58:12] They can stall this shit out until health care reform is passed [18:00:21] Yon, you able to join channel? [18:00:25] Or busy? [18:02:13] Also, if it doesn't pass now, it'll be important again soon, on account of fucking ridiculous health care prices. So we'll probably see it every election cycle a democrat's in office for a long while [18:02:30] At least until Google releases robots to live inside our bodies and make sure we never get sick [18:05:05] * Rowyn (rowyn2001@66.201.146.49) Quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) [18:05:29] http://www.destructoid.com/new-wii-game-makes-with-the-battle-cries-n-decapitations-161127.phtml [18:06:24] http://www.zeldainformer.com/2010/01/new-zelda-wii-information-leaked.php#more Some rumors here. [18:08:56] Huh. The Sartar book reccomends that you make your clan before your characters. [18:09:05] huh [18:09:07] Since that'll help create ideas for what you might play [18:09:16] How large is a clan? [18:09:20] So we each create a clan? [18:09:43] A clan is about 500-2000 people, averaging 900 [18:09:50] It depends if you're all from the same clan or not [18:10:12] For rural games, it's reccomended, for urban games, it's optional. But having the same clan does help explain why you all hang around together [18:12:42] * Cheeseball nods. [18:13:19] Any guidelines for designing a clan as a group? [18:13:55] The clan creation process is a multiple-choice survey. The answers effect the stats of your clan as well as its history and all that [18:14:25] For a group, we can either come to a consensus or take turns answering the questions [18:14:35] Gotcha. [18:16:07] hmmm [18:16:16] * Demota nods [18:16:20] Ever heard of the Grimm RPG? [18:16:28] Hm. [18:16:31] Is that the entire title? [18:16:37] yeah [18:17:07] http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite.asp?eidm=63&enmi=Grimm%20RPG [18:17:33] We could probably start the survey now-ish or when Matt gets back [18:17:47] It's actually a pretty good crash-course on the setting, since it goes through all of history [18:17:49] Oh, that's where I remmember it from [18:18:06] I'm afraid I don't know much about it. [18:18:20] What brings it up? [18:19:07] just curious [18:19:29] should I try to track down the pdf? [18:20:56] Dunno. Guess it oculdn't hurt [18:21:03] What about it inrests you? [18:22:03] wondering if it has Wonderland stuffles [18:22:18] Aah [18:22:23] and I always like new RPG setting ideas [18:22:24] Probably not [18:22:39] At least, judging by the title [18:23:05] Fairy tales associated with Grimm are like, hundreds of years old and in the public domain, and no one knows their authors. [18:23:21] And there are uncountable versions [18:23:21] ah [18:23:29] yah [18:27:44] The funny thing is that people seem to think that Grimm's fairy tales wer ethe original, uncensored versions. Which is kinda silly, considering those, as brutal as they might sound to a modern audience, were themselves censored versions [18:28:10] yikes [18:29:21] from what the forums say you can create your own adventures [18:29:44] ... isn't that true of like, every RPG? [18:29:50] true [18:31:28] Does Grimm let people do that in any special way? [18:32:40] well according to the forums someone did make a wonderland adventure [18:34:09] Ah. [18:35:14] * MattinMeeting (MattinMeet@75-147-52-61-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #Exalted [18:35:18] Hi [18:35:22] Hey [18:35:45] Whoop [18:35:47] Oh, also, we're going to be licensing and publishing some short-form RPGs by the designer of Maid RPG (the first one is about 12 pages, the second one around 45). Can you give me a rough idea how much you charge for editing services? [18:35:52] Not sure how much I should say [18:36:19] For 60 pages? [18:36:34] Gut instinct is "Dollar a page" [18:36:38] 100 or 150 [18:36:39] But that's basd on nothing [18:36:41] * Demota nods [18:36:49] Have you edited before? [18:37:10] Um. Yeah. ._. [18:37:17] Professionally, I mean. =) [18:37:22] Oh. Nope. [18:37:30] I'd lean to $120 for the whole project, if it's the first professional one. [18:37:35] But I've only done a little freelancing. [18:37:56] * Demota nods [18:38:07] I was actually checking in to see if anyone remembered the name of the story that the "robostic arm" thing came from [18:38:09] or robostic sword [18:38:17] I thought it was Death of the UNdead [18:38:18] Not me [18:38:21] but now I can't remember. =( [18:39:48] ohoh [18:39:51] Maybe it was Death of the Living Dead [18:42:48] I'll be back more permanently in aminute [18:42:49] * MattinMeeting (MattinMeet@75-147-52-61-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) Quit (Quit: MattinMeeting) [18:46:21] Hooray, full tier 9.5! And my new staff is a good one. [18:46:52] Gatts [18:47:32] Grats. :) [18:47:37] * Rowyn (rowyn2001@66.201.146.49) has joined #Exalted [18:48:10] Hi [18:48:20] So, any idea when we might be able to start? [18:48:30] I'm good whenever [18:49:05] Okay, so get intpo #Youkai. [18:49:09] I'v been waiting for about two hours. :( [18:49:42] You could have said something :( [18:49:45] * Yon is now known as Megumi [18:49:53] * Charles is now known as Kentaro [18:50:06] Whoo, applied for unemployment [18:50:17] I did. Tiwce. :( [18:50:18] Which means I now have the state helping me look for a job [18:50:21] Grats Charles [18:50:37] Oh, I read that as "I applied for unemployment twice" [18:51:17] Nice Cha. [18:51:40] It was easier than I thought, too. [18:51:51] Oh? [18:51:52] I'd reccomend doing it, Dem, if only to get the job search help [18:51:53] Yeah [18:52:01] Sersiously took me maybe 20 minutes [18:52:08] I can't apply for unemployment unless I had a job for a year and lost it, I thought [18:52:13] Most of that was looking up start and end dates [18:52:14] * Adyen (senranda@74.12.126.117) has joined #Exalted [18:52:21] Hey [18:52:28] hiyo [18:52:30] Game's juuuust starting. The cast is at the mall [18:52:36] I assume Emmy is the sort of person who buys things [18:52:45] Is that true? You should get a TOTALLY bullshit job and then quit immediately, then. :| [18:53:11] I think you can't get benefits if you haven't worked, but you can probably get the job search help [18:53:15] [18:46:27] GlassParkingLot: ahahaha on Conan O'Brien's last night he did a sketch where he got a Bugatti sports car dolled up to look like a mouse... and licensed music from the Rolling Stones [18:53:15] [18:46:32] GlassParkingLot: specifically to run up costs on NBC [18:53:15] [18:46:45] GlassParkingLot: and make it prohibitively expensive to air again [18:53:15] [18:47:05] demota99: hahhaah [18:53:15] [18:47:28] demota99: WHen I read that he planned to go out with a bang, I assumed martyrdom would be involved [18:53:15] [18:47:30] GlassParkingLot: it cost 1.5 million for a segment that was one minute long [18:53:15] [18:48:16] GlassParkingLot: "We're going to introduce new comedy bits that aren't so much funny as they are CRAZY EXPENSIVE" [18:53:15] [18:48:31] GlassParkingLot: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/21/conan-blowing-nbcs-money_n_430883. html video below the story [18:53:15] [18:50:53] GlassParkingLot: I wonder if he'll try to run up FCC fines tomorrow night [18:53:17] * Demota nods [18:53:20] She's more likely to pull up her sign for $1 Confessions at malls, tho. [18:53:31] * Adyen is now known as Emmy [18:54:08] It'll be worth it for mall security hassling her, then. :V [18:54:15] http://www.amazon.com/Tales-Before-Tolkien-Modern-Fantasy/dp/0345458559 Huh. Interesting. [18:54:26] I love the typographical layout on the cover [18:54:45] The "Tolkein" is set up almost like a parody of the usual Tolkein cover [18:55:52] She should just buy a permit that allows her to do religous activities inside that mall. It would save her a lot of trouble. :p [18:58:02] So, what's been happening? [18:58:41] They went to the arcade and then they're getting pizza [19:00:04] That's about it [19:00:11] I figure Emmy could be at the mall and see them in the pizza shop [19:00:31] Wow [19:00:32] I read somewhere that Tolkien once said that Chaucer was the last great English author (as opposed to Norman). Does anyone else recall that? It strikes me as pretty awesomely curmudgeonly to say the Battle of Hastings ruined English lit. [19:01:14] Haha. Never read Battle of Hastings, so I have no idea. [19:02:03] * Cheeseball is now known as Berny [19:02:07] Battle of hastings wasn't a book. It was an actual battle [19:02:20] Oh, you mean the actual Battle of Hastings. [19:02:23] I'm gonna go off and play Borderlands a bit. See ya in a bit. [19:02:25] Buhdhurrhurr [19:02:29] Later [19:02:29] Later, AE. [19:02:29] Later AE [19:02:31] Have fun [19:02:33] later [19:02:36] YAAAAAAAAAH [19:02:37] * Alt-Eisen is now known as AFK-Eisen [19:02:56] That was me making fun of my own lack of /me [19:03:11] Haha [19:03:13] Not saying Maha's a tard for thinking the Battle of Hastings was a book :( [19:03:31] Npnp. I didn't think you were. :) [19:04:20] Sorry, Dem. I think I parsed your comment wrong and thought you were implying that Norman wrote something titled Battle of Hastings. [19:04:31] No prob [19:05:13] Matt, et. al., would we be up for doing at least part of the clan survey tonight? [19:05:35] Sure! [19:05:51] huh [19:05:52] The Legend of Sigurd and Gudr�n is a previously unpublished work by J.R.R. Tolkien, written while Tolkien was Professor of Anglo-Saxon at Oxford during the 1920s and �30s, before he wrote The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. It makes available for the first time Tolkien�s extensive retelling in English narrative verse of the epic Norse tales of Sigurd the V�lsung and The Fall of the Niflungs. It includes an introduction by J.R.R. Tolkien, drawn from one of his own lectures on Norse literature, with commentary and notes on the poems by Christopher Tolkien. [19:06:06] I',m curious about his take on Norse myth [19:08:08] Huh, yeah [19:08:11] That sounds interesting [19:08:43] His Middle-Earth stuff is already kind of Norse-ish. [19:08:53] Yeah [19:09:28] Alright. So, basically, these questions are always addressed in the second person, but they describe our characters ancestors, so we may not agree with the statements or decisions. [19:09:29] The Mythic Age [19:09:29] It began in the lost mists of creation. The world [19:09:29] was made. The Old Gods of the Celestial Court have [19:09:29] failed to maintain the world. The New Gods are rearranging [19:09:29] the cosmos. [19:09:31] http://www.amazon.com/Legend-Sigurd-Gudrun-J-R-R-Tolkien/dp/0547273428/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1 263171899&sr=8-1 [19:09:42] Everyone knows that First People were made by [19:09:43] all the gods, working in harmony and conjunction to [19:09:43] create a new form of life. It worked. They created the [19:09:43] first mortals: Darhudan and Darhudana, Grandfather [19:09:43] and Grandmother Life. [19:09:43] Grandfather and Grandmother Life are your [19:09:43] oldest ancestors. They started life in the hands of the [19:09:45] gods. They walked with the mighty, and were as they [19:09:45] in those days. They had hundreds of children, who [19:09:45] Hey, do we wanna do this on Wave? [19:09:47] in turn had hundreds of their own. The cosmos was [19:09:47] at peace, but slowly awareness started. Your clan�s [19:09:49] It might be cleaner [19:09:49] awareness began when they recognized that they [19:09:49] were different from other people. [19:09:52] Or maybe in its own channel? [19:09:59] I can get on Wave. [19:10:07] Wave is a good idea, yeah [19:13:54] Added my vote [19:14:09] I guess since Yon's running, Charles should toss in a vote too [19:14:28] Yay Wave [19:15:52] Oh, should I post the results of these? [19:16:10] Results? [19:16:14] They all give us background/mechanical stuff for our clan, but honestly, I don't understand the mechanical stuff and neither do you guys [19:16:16] Like... what each person voted for? [19:16:25] Post 'em after. [19:16:28] So it might just be better to judge based on what we think would be cool [19:16:30] Alright [19:18:19] Sure. [19:18:51] Hm. [19:19:00] What question we get next depends on the results of question 2 [19:20:38] I'll just post question 4 now, and if we get the answer that unlocks question 3, I'll post it later [19:22:36] What are you guys doing? [19:22:53] We're playing YOukai [19:22:55] You wanna play? [19:22:56] Aahh [19:23:13] I don't know if I'd be much good at this point, since I've been gone so long. =( [19:24:37] It's like rollerskating. It never gets old. :p [19:30:03] Matt: Well, all you'd need to do is show up at the mall and see them eating pizza, if you're up for that [19:30:04] * Adyen (senranda@74.12.126.117) has joined #Exalted [19:30:30] I just need to get off the phone [19:30:36] Silly internet. dc is for kids! [19:31:13] * Emmy (senranda@74.12.126.117) Quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) [19:31:37] * Adyen is now known as Emmy [19:33:05] The game is pretty much exactly like that [19:34:49] Charles: Is 13 supposed to have no vote options? [19:36:06] Time to eat. Bbiab. :) [19:39:57] Dem: Yep [19:40:58] Heort led your clan in I Fought We Won and taught you the rites of intiation. It's a part of your history, but it just, like, happened [19:41:06] Hm. It just occured to me that this oculd be a Google Spreadsheets form. [19:42:59] lol... what kind of servey is that? [19:44:26] A survey to determine clan history [19:45:02] Starting up San Juan in BSW if anyone wants to join up. [19:45:23] Sorry Dem, I was getting food [19:45:31] No prob [19:45:45] I'll take a seat there and learn. Though slowly. [19:45:55] I'm doing light GMing and taking a survey [19:46:06] I'm on BSW [19:46:32] * Rowyn nods. [19:46:55] I'll make a seperate channel for explanation of rules. [19:47:03] Which we kind of should be doing all along. ;P [19:47:12] #games [19:47:23] ... seriously? Won't that be a channel that's already taken? [19:47:32] Nope! [19:47:42] Yeah, sure [19:47:49] Don't see why we can't talk about it here, though [19:47:54] Charles'll probably love to learn of it [19:48:02] Fair enough. [19:48:16] Just don't like to bog down other channels with rules talk is all. [19:48:49] So anyhow, the method of play of San Juan is really simple. [19:49:15] Cards are everything. Cards pay for cost of buildings. Cards get flipped over from the deck to represent goods, and cards are your payment for goods. [19:49:47] The upper left-hand corner is the cost of each card when you're building it. The lower lefthand corner is the amount of Victory Points the card is worth in the end. [19:50:30] Game ends when someone, anyone, during the building phase builds their 12th building. Then everyone finishes their building phase and whoever has the most VP is the winner. [19:51:44] Now violet cards are city structures and don't do anything other than what they say. Any other color building is a production building. They're the only things that can produce goods during the producer phase. [19:52:33] Now during the game, there's 6 roles. The first player is always the Governor. Who has two roles. [19:52:55] First is to make sure everyone discards down to 7 cards at the beginning of their turn, unless they have a building played that says they can hold otherwise. [19:53:33] The second is to make sure everyone who's played a chapel decides whether they want to chapel or not. Chapeling means putting a card from your hand under your chapel. Using up that card gives you a victory point at the end of the game for each card. [19:53:37] mrgh. Youkai's going slow. Is anything wrong, or are people just busy? [19:53:40] Should I be worried? [19:54:13] I was filling out the survey [19:54:20] Then everyone, again starting with the governor, chooses a role. [19:54:35] One at a time. The role you pick determines that phase. [19:54:40] I'm kinda waiting for responses... I'm not sure what we should do afterwards. [19:55:07] So if you pick the Builder, it's the builder phase. Everyone gets to build a building. No one will get to build a building after the builder phase is done until next round. [19:56:00] Producer produces goods on your production buildings, trader sells produced goods on your production building. Councillor lets you draw cards and choose one of them to keep. Prospector just allows you to draw a card. No one else gets an action. [19:56:39] If *you're* the one who picked the job, you get a bonus. Like builders build with one less card. Producers produce an extra good, traders can trade an extra good, councillors can select from more cards. [19:56:45] And that's really the game. [19:57:25] Emmy is too smart to need to study! [19:57:34] All the cards are "scroll over" to read their description. Green arrow means you choose that card to build. Red x's means you're choosing that card to discard or pay for cost of building. [19:58:11] Any questions, Dem? [19:58:43] just to chip in my own 2cents, those rules sound kind of familiar. [19:58:55] San Juan? [19:59:02] ya [19:59:10] That's what we're playing. ^_^ [19:59:21] no, I mean, to another game. [19:59:24] Maybe Puerto Rico, since San Juan is just Puerto Rico with cards [19:59:32] They're sister games. [19:59:39] I was kinda busy with that survey [19:59:46] no, it's a game with planets and stuff. [19:59:49] Oh! [19:59:57] Race to the Galaxy [20:00:01] I can't remember what it's called off the top.. oh ya [20:00:27] No questions yet, but honestly, I learn stuff slow. This is a huge info dump [20:01:31] Honestly, Dem? Explaining Dominion would be the same info dump. ^^; [20:01:40] It would be. [20:01:44] Probably longer. [20:01:45] That's why I don't learn in info dumps. [20:01:52] But Dominion is kinda straightforward [20:01:57] One paragraph at a time, one step at a time. [20:02:03] Sorta. [20:02:08] And within the context of a game in motion in front of me [20:02:42] Well I did presume you were checking the interface that had everything in front of you. ^^; My mistake. [20:03:09] Join up and we'll play [20:03:51] So we've got an Indigo Plant, which is the cheapest good. Just to let you know [20:04:41] What's the X mean? [20:04:45] Also might want to slow down a little, Dem. [20:04:49] If I click the 2 ewird cards on the right [20:05:02] Because there was something I wanted to explain during Producer phase but you clicked too fast. [20:05:06] oh [20:05:08] I am insane. [20:05:09] Restart? [20:05:11] Hi DH [20:05:13] Nah. [20:05:14] Between random LFGs? [20:05:21] Working on Loremaster/Seeker. :D [20:05:23] Let's play through a round, so you get the feel. [20:05:25] Hahah [20:05:30] So x is the card you discard. [20:05:32] Man, I'm kinda sad the survey doesn't mention Bad King Urgain [20:05:35] Because I picked councillor. [20:05:39] Because he's HILARIOUS [20:05:41] Which is "Draw two cards, discard one." [20:05:51] Person who picks councillor draws 5 and discards 4. [20:05:59] Yeah [20:06:08] I can't remmeber many details about Bad King Urgain [20:06:08] So choose the card you don't want then click the arrow [20:06:52] Okay. [20:06:53]