Start of #Improfanfic buffer: Sun Feb 03 10:11:59 2002 [09:12] *** Now talking in #Improfanfic [09:12] *** Topic is 'Fury wants everyone to know that the MB is "OPEN FOR BUSINESS!" http://mb.improfanfic.com - http://www.improfanfic.com#' [09:12] *** Set by Roe on Sat Feb 02 03:21:13 [09:12] [Demota] "DIE, FOOLISH TEA!" [09:13] *** Greg has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving#) [09:15] Hey Dem-san. [09:26] *** Chamelaeon has joined #improfanfic [09:31] *** Disconnected [09:31] *** Attempting to rejoin... [09:31] *** Rejoined channel #Improfanfic [09:31] *** Topic is 'Fury wants everyone to know that the MB is "OPEN FOR BUSINESS!" http://mb.improfanfic.com - http://www.improfanfic.com#' [09:31] *** Set by Roe on Sat Feb 02 03:21:13 [09:31] [Demota] "DIE, FOOLISH TEA!" [09:31] Chikins. [09:31] * NinjaDebugger finishes the book. [09:31] ND: What book? [09:32] It's unreleased as of yet. [09:32] It's called 'Smashing Doves' [09:33] And it purports to be a space adventure that will appeal to fans of "DragonballZ" and Ghost in the Shell. [09:33] ... huh. [09:33] ... [09:33] I take it it isn't actually anywhere near that good? [09:33] It also has more pluralization, grammar, and word use errors than you can shake a Lurking Award at. [09:34] Heh. @_@ [09:34] Actually, I find it hard to imagine something that unifies those two genres. [09:34] Including the not quite SPOON-like battlecry of "Bonsai!" [09:34] ........... [09:34] * Ked ROFL's. [09:34] I find there are 2 types of anime-inspired work out there. Wait, no. 3 types. [09:35] As nearly as I can tell, the author has based his anime reccommendations on the fact that he stole several elements from DBZ, and one element from GitS. [09:35] One: Really actualy good stuff. Two: Guys who just want to make a quick buck off the newest "fad". THree: Idiotic stuff. [09:35] Heh [09:35] I'm willing to believe that the author has actually seen both of them. [09:36] I'm not willing to believe he's seen anything _but_ those. [09:36] *** Farsan has joined #improfanfic [09:36] Heh. [09:36] Hi [09:36] The fights are very DBZ-esque. Too bad they flow like diarrhea down a dry toilet because of his poor writing and bad plot. [09:36] hi [09:37] That sounds like the later DBZ sagas, pretty much [09:37] Heh. [09:37] Except they're more accurately diarrhea combined with constipation [09:37] The book as a whole is crap, it reads like a DBZ self-insert fantasy, without the DBZ world. [09:37] Mm? I dunno about Buu, yet, but Cell was mostly enjoyable. [09:37] Toriyama wanted to end DBZ at the Freiza Saga. [09:37] But, the fans kept demanding more, and wouldn't shut up [09:38] The 'main' character goes from insufferable Shinji-like putz to Goku-like levels of ass whooping. [09:38] ..... [09:39] In the course of three hundred pages. [09:39] Oh, fuck. Toof posted the change already. [09:39] ... three hundred. [09:39] The story is told from the point of view of the main character after the fact. [09:39] main, yes. 'character' is the word that doesn't appear to be quite in its proper place. [09:39] Hee [09:39] Does the cover art try to make it look like anime? [09:39] This means that there's no suspense at all. [09:40] No, thankfully. [09:40] Good. [09:40] The cover is this sorta wannabe surreal piece. [09:40] Heh. [09:40] Every time it looks like the main 'character' will die, you have no need to fear, because he's lived to tell you this story. [09:40] * Demota snickers [09:41] Oh, and the entire book has been seeded through with 'crap' [09:41] Oh? [09:41] Oh, no. [09:42] *** Chamelaeon is now known as ChamInnaFuudz [09:42] Interests [09:42] Many matches [09:42] There are 2024 people and/or communities listing this as an interest. A list won't be shown. [09:42] Every time a person would normally say 'fuck' or 'damn' or 'hell' it's been replaced with 'crap' [09:42] hehehe [09:42] .... [09:42] Shad: Heh [09:42] ND: ... gah. Even 'crud' would've been better. [09:42] The characters say "What the crap?" [09:42] They say "God crappit." [09:42] ... [09:42] ..... [09:42] That's a new one. [09:42] What, did the author only watch anime where nobody ever swears? [09:42] Even worse, the author tries to make a plot point out of it later on. [09:43] .......... [09:43] Demota: Dubbed DBZ sounds about right. [09:43] .......... [09:43] Ked, if we ever see a character like this in your RPG, can we kill him? [09:43] And give him a lot of Hits so we can stretch it out as long as possible [09:43] Oh, you can kill anyone in my RPG. Or try, anyway... [09:44] Yeah, but I really really wanna kill this guy.. [09:44] ND: HOw did he try to make it a plot point? [09:44] The main 'character' is taught to read minds. He suddenly notices himself saying 'crap' all the time, and figures that at a young age he telepathically bonded with his dog, who thanks to a universal translator, he can now undertsand, because the dog is very fond of 'crap' [09:44] ... [09:44] That... is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of [09:45] This main 'character' starts the book as a 'normal' human kid. He's a nerd, or maybe a geek. It's hard to say. He gets the hell beat out of him, stuff like that. [09:45] .... ooh. http://www.ncsx.net/www/2002/ncs012802/2002_convoy.htm [09:45] Heh [09:45] The first half of the book is something that only a fan of Marmalade Boy could love. [09:46] It's him whining about the fact that most of his life has been screwed up because when he was fifteen, he chose another girl over his best friend, who was in love with him. [09:46] ... [09:48] ... geez. Is possible for there to be an "Anime-inspired" item that's worse than this? [09:48] The story progresses from high school to college, with him still bemoaning how that single choice ruined his love life, and how he constantly stayed in bad relationships because he didn't think he deserved any better, and how he was constantly held in bad relationships by just the hint of possible nookie. [09:48] ... [09:48] And how he would have had a 4.0 in school except that he was a horrible coward who couldn't speak in public because he was beaten during high school by all the jocks, so he flunked Speech twice and was on his way to failing a third time, and since he could only take the course three times and it was a requirement for his degree, he was going to be kicked out of school. [09:48] Yes. [09:48] Ked: How? [09:48] You don't want to know. [09:48] It gets worse, guys. [09:50] This guy finally gets with a decent girl, who is just like his best friend from way back, his much bemoaned 'first love' [09:50] Deeeep huuurting... DEEEEEEP HUUUURTING... [09:50] ... [09:50] So he's kicking back in her apartment one day, and a mirror explodes as a guy comes jumping out of it. [09:50] This guys looks just like a bigger, more buff version of himself. [09:51] I'd accuse him of ripping off AMS, but I don't think he's ever known it [09:51] So this guy that just came through the mirror says "I'm Robin, your brother." [09:51] As it also turns out, his 'first love' and the girl he's currently dating are one and the same, despite looking nothing alike. [09:52] It takes him another third of the book to figure out that she must be a shapeshifter. [09:52] ... [09:52] ... the HELL? [09:52] It also turns out that this girl and his buffer older brother are engaged, and his brother is a prince. Which means, of course, that _he_ is a prince, too. [09:53] He was apparently exiled to earth because his genetics were inferior. [09:53] ........... ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH! [09:53] ...................... [09:54] You later find out that this was not true. He was _really_ exiled because he was too weak to survive in their world, because he was infected with a disease that killed his mother and caused him to be born premature. [09:54] I take it that it IS possible for this thing to get worse? [09:54] You later find out that this is also not entirely true, and he was really exiled to protect him from the great enemy who is trying to destroy the galaxy. [09:54] ... [09:54] Then you find out that he's capable of generating lots and lots of electrical power and channeling it to do lots of harm. [09:55] Three hundred pages? [09:55] Yep. [09:55] ... wait a sec. [09:55] Then he gets sent into the Room of Spirit and Time... er... I mean, the "War Games" for some instant training. [09:55] So this author thinks that Ki is ELECTRICITY? [09:55] No. [09:55] No mention is made of Ki. [09:55] He's just using that. [09:56] He's like an electric eel, except that instead of having electric batteries, he's got nuclear reactors. [09:56] Lots of them. [09:56] ND: Yeah, but what I mean is, he sees DBZ and thinks all the blasts are electric [09:56] ... [09:56] Maybe. [09:57] So they send him into these "War Games" for training, and he has to do a lot of zenlike training missions, and some not-so-zenlike training missions. [09:57] There, he finds out that he has a sister, who is dead. [09:57] She had the same power as he does. [09:57] She went to fight the big baddie, and she failed miserably, and by all accounts, his power is weaker. [09:57] So that power isn't as much of a help as he'd hope it to be [09:58] He's taunted constantly through his training, especially with one particular mission, to light a single match without touching the straw around it. [09:58] ... [09:58] It takes him four months to do it, where his sister supposedly did it in two weeks or so. [09:59] He also learns that he's super strong and regenerates at an incredible rate. [09:59] Which also means he's effectively immune to poison. [10:00] Which explains how he survived an earlier assassination attempt. [10:00] .... [10:01] So he gets out of the Room of Spirit and Time and he goes with his brother, his first love (who is an amazingly skilled soldier and a shapeshifter), and his brother's two best friends, a pirate and a catgirl, to confront the great evil, who is called Lord Zahn. [10:01] ..........AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! [10:01] This Lord Zahn just happens to be on an immense starship. [10:02] So they get there, and his brother reveals that he sold his soul in order to get something called a Celestial Sword that was capable of hurting this Lord Zahn. [10:02] Does it contain the "any resemblance to people living or dead is coincidence" disclaimer? [10:02] So his brother runs up to the big baddie, drops his sword, and gives Lord Zahn a big hug. [10:03] Shad: Presumably. [10:03] ... [10:03] Then it's revealed that his brother wasn't the one who sold his soul to get the sword, it was the catgirl, who had previously tried to kill the main 'character' [10:04] So his brother and his one true love switch sides. [10:04] So in other words, the author is saying "If it isn't in DBZ or GitS, then it sucks." ? [10:05] This guy somehow pulls enough courage and moral strength from his sudden conversion from Atheist to Devout Christian to not only not switch sides, but go and rescue the scientist that they need to seal the rift in space-time and save the universe. [10:05] *** ChamInnaFuudz is now known as Chamelaeon [10:05] ....... [10:05] Oh, gee. Now they're dragging religon into the whole mess. [10:06] OH, it gets better. [10:06] Everyone in the universe except for most of the people on Earth are devout christians. [10:06] Lemme guess. It turns out hte main character is actually God? [10:06] ......... [10:06] Earth is Mecca, and has had intergalactic wars fought over it, because Jesus was born there. [10:06] ................ [10:07] So it's a bit of theological propaganda thinly disguised as a very very bad novel? [10:07] So midway through the book, the main guy has an out of body experience when the catgirl poisons him, and he sees a demon standing in the corner and suddenly finds religion. [10:08] The big evil guy isn't really evil at all, he's a former priest who had his family killed in some way that isn't really explained very well, and decided to use a galactic superweapon to destroy everything that God created and then remake it anew in his own image, with no death or anything baad like that. [10:10] And we also find out that these people have been trying to open trade relations between parallel dimensions using space-time technobabble that doesn't really make any sense. [10:10] It strikes me that just about anyone in the channel could write a better book than this. [10:10] ... blargh. [10:10] I don't doubt it. [10:10] And get this... [10:11] Guys... :p [10:11] the book ends with him closing the space-time rift, and getting sent back in time by his brother, who is basking in all the glory and trying to do away with the galactic council and become emperor like in the good old days. [10:11] *** Lurker has joined #improfanfic [10:11] [Lurker] Flyflyflyflyfly, POW, flyflyflyflyfly. [10:11] Hiya Lurk. [10:11] ... I think there's a book you would like to hear about. [10:11] And he closes the spacetime rift by flying into it with a few hundred of the weapon that opened it in the first place and detonating them all at once. [10:11] j00000 [10:11] Dem: Oro? [10:11] No! Stop the hurting! [10:11] ... So it's a thin imitation of Star Wars at the end... ^^x;; End of #Improfanfic buffer Sun Feb 03 10:11:59 2002 Start of #Improfanfic buffer: Sun Feb 03 10:28:07 2002 [09:12] *** Now talking in #Improfanfic [09:12] *** Topic is 'Fury wants everyone to know that the MB is "OPEN FOR BUSINESS!" http://mb.improfanfic.com - http://www.improfanfic.com#' [09:12] *** Set by Roe on Sat Feb 02 03:21:13 [09:12] [Demota] "DIE, FOOLISH TEA!" [09:13] *** Greg has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving#) [09:15] Hey Dem-san. [09:26] *** Chamelaeon has joined #improfanfic [09:31] *** Disconnected [09:31] *** Attempting to rejoin... [09:31] *** Rejoined channel #Improfanfic [09:31] *** Topic is 'Fury wants everyone to know that the MB is "OPEN FOR BUSINESS!" http://mb.improfanfic.com - http://www.improfanfic.com#' [09:31] *** Set by Roe on Sat Feb 02 03:21:13 [09:31] [Demota] "DIE, FOOLISH TEA!" [09:31] Chikins. [09:31] * NinjaDebugger finishes the book. [09:31] ND: What book? [09:32] It's unreleased as of yet. [09:32] It's called 'Smashing Doves' [09:33] And it purports to be a space adventure that will appeal to fans of "DragonballZ" and Ghost in the Shell. [09:33] ... huh. [09:33] ... [09:33] I take it it isn't actually anywhere near that good? [09:33] It also has more pluralization, grammar, and word use errors than you can shake a Lurking Award at. [09:34] Heh. @_@ [09:34] Actually, I find it hard to imagine something that unifies those two genres. [09:34] Including the not quite SPOON-like battlecry of "Bonsai!" [09:34] ........... [09:34] * Ked ROFL's. [09:34] I find there are 2 types of anime-inspired work out there. Wait, no. 3 types. [09:35] As nearly as I can tell, the author has based his anime reccommendations on the fact that he stole several elements from DBZ, and one element from GitS. [09:35] One: Really actualy good stuff. Two: Guys who just want to make a quick buck off the newest "fad". THree: Idiotic stuff. [09:35] Heh [09:35] I'm willing to believe that the author has actually seen both of them. [09:36] I'm not willing to believe he's seen anything _but_ those. [09:36] *** Farsan has joined #improfanfic [09:36] Heh. [09:36] Hi [09:36] The fights are very DBZ-esque. Too bad they flow like diarrhea down a dry toilet because of his poor writing and bad plot. [09:36] hi [09:37] That sounds like the later DBZ sagas, pretty much [09:37] Heh. [09:37] Except they're more accurately diarrhea combined with constipation [09:37] The book as a whole is crap, it reads like a DBZ self-insert fantasy, without the DBZ world. [09:37] Mm? I dunno about Buu, yet, but Cell was mostly enjoyable. [09:37] Toriyama wanted to end DBZ at the Freiza Saga. [09:37] But, the fans kept demanding more, and wouldn't shut up [09:38] The 'main' character goes from insufferable Shinji-like putz to Goku-like levels of ass whooping. [09:38] ..... [09:39] In the course of three hundred pages. [09:39] Oh, fuck. Toof posted the change already. [09:39] ... three hundred. [09:39] The story is told from the point of view of the main character after the fact. [09:39] main, yes. 'character' is the word that doesn't appear to be quite in its proper place. [09:39] Hee [09:39] Does the cover art try to make it look like anime? [09:39] This means that there's no suspense at all. [09:40] No, thankfully. [09:40] Good. [09:40] The cover is this sorta wannabe surreal piece. [09:40] Heh. [09:40] Every time it looks like the main 'character' will die, you have no need to fear, because he's lived to tell you this story. [09:40] * Demota snickers [09:41] Oh, and the entire book has been seeded through with 'crap' [09:41] Oh? [09:41] Oh, no. [09:42] *** Chamelaeon is now known as ChamInnaFuudz [09:42] Interests [09:42] Many matches [09:42] There are 2024 people and/or communities listing this as an interest. A list won't be shown. [09:42] Every time a person would normally say 'fuck' or 'damn' or 'hell' it's been replaced with 'crap' [09:42] hehehe [09:42] .... [09:42] Shad: Heh [09:42] ND: ... gah. Even 'crud' would've been better. [09:42] The characters say "What the crap?" [09:42] They say "God crappit." [09:42] ... [09:42] ..... [09:42] That's a new one. [09:42] What, did the author only watch anime where nobody ever swears? [09:42] Even worse, the author tries to make a plot point out of it later on. [09:43] .......... [09:43] Demota: Dubbed DBZ sounds about right. [09:43] .......... [09:43] Ked, if we ever see a character like this in your RPG, can we kill him? [09:43] And give him a lot of Hits so we can stretch it out as long as possible [09:43] Oh, you can kill anyone in my RPG. Or try, anyway... [09:44] Yeah, but I really really wanna kill this guy.. [09:44] ND: HOw did he try to make it a plot point? [09:44] The main 'character' is taught to read minds. He suddenly notices himself saying 'crap' all the time, and figures that at a young age he telepathically bonded with his dog, who thanks to a universal translator, he can now undertsand, because the dog is very fond of 'crap' [09:44] ... [09:44] That... is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of [09:45] This main 'character' starts the book as a 'normal' human kid. He's a nerd, or maybe a geek. It's hard to say. He gets the hell beat out of him, stuff like that. [09:45] .... ooh. http://www.ncsx.net/www/2002/ncs012802/2002_convoy.htm [09:45] Heh [09:45] The first half of the book is something that only a fan of Marmalade Boy could love. [09:46] It's him whining about the fact that most of his life has been screwed up because when he was fifteen, he chose another girl over his best friend, who was in love with him. [09:46] ... [09:48] ... geez. Is possible for there to be an "Anime-inspired" item that's worse than this? [09:48] The story progresses from high school to college, with him still bemoaning how that single choice ruined his love life, and how he constantly stayed in bad relationships because he didn't think he deserved any better, and how he was constantly held in bad relationships by just the hint of possible nookie. [09:48] ... [09:48] And how he would have had a 4.0 in school except that he was a horrible coward who couldn't speak in public because he was beaten during high school by all the jocks, so he flunked Speech twice and was on his way to failing a third time, and since he could only take the course three times and it was a requirement for his degree, he was going to be kicked out of school. [09:48] Yes. [09:48] Ked: How? [09:48] You don't want to know. [09:48] It gets worse, guys. [09:50] This guy finally gets with a decent girl, who is just like his best friend from way back, his much bemoaned 'first love' [09:50] Deeeep huuurting... DEEEEEEP HUUUURTING... [09:50] ... [09:50] So he's kicking back in her apartment one day, and a mirror explodes as a guy comes jumping out of it. [09:50] This guys looks just like a bigger, more buff version of himself. [09:51] I'd accuse him of ripping off AMS, but I don't think he's ever known it [09:51] So this guy that just came through the mirror says "I'm Robin, your brother." [09:51] As it also turns out, his 'first love' and the girl he's currently dating are one and the same, despite looking nothing alike. [09:52] It takes him another third of the book to figure out that she must be a shapeshifter. [09:52] ... [09:52] ... the HELL? [09:52] It also turns out that this girl and his buffer older brother are engaged, and his brother is a prince. Which means, of course, that _he_ is a prince, too. [09:53] He was apparently exiled to earth because his genetics were inferior. [09:53] ........... ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH! [09:53] ...................... [09:54] You later find out that this was not true. He was _really_ exiled because he was too weak to survive in their world, because he was infected with a disease that killed his mother and caused him to be born premature. [09:54] I take it that it IS possible for this thing to get worse? [09:54] You later find out that this is also not entirely true, and he was really exiled to protect him from the great enemy who is trying to destroy the galaxy. [09:54] ... [09:54] Then you find out that he's capable of generating lots and lots of electrical power and channeling it to do lots of harm. [09:55] Three hundred pages? [09:55] Yep. [09:55] ... wait a sec. [09:55] Then he gets sent into the Room of Spirit and Time... er... I mean, the "War Games" for some instant training. [09:55] So this author thinks that Ki is ELECTRICITY? [09:55] No. [09:55] No mention is made of Ki. [09:55] He's just using that. [09:56] He's like an electric eel, except that instead of having electric batteries, he's got nuclear reactors. [09:56] Lots of them. [09:56] ND: Yeah, but what I mean is, he sees DBZ and thinks all the blasts are electric [09:56] ... [09:56] Maybe. [09:57] So they send him into these "War Games" for training, and he has to do a lot of zenlike training missions, and some not-so-zenlike training missions. [09:57] There, he finds out that he has a sister, who is dead. [09:57] She had the same power as he does. [09:57] She went to fight the big baddie, and she failed miserably, and by all accounts, his power is weaker. [09:57] So that power isn't as much of a help as he'd hope it to be [09:58] He's taunted constantly through his training, especially with one particular mission, to light a single match without touching the straw around it. [09:58] ... [09:58] It takes him four months to do it, where his sister supposedly did it in two weeks or so. [09:59] He also learns that he's super strong and regenerates at an incredible rate. [09:59] Which also means he's effectively immune to poison. [10:00] Which explains how he survived an earlier assassination attempt. [10:00] .... [10:01] So he gets out of the Room of Spirit and Time and he goes with his brother, his first love (who is an amazingly skilled soldier and a shapeshifter), and his brother's two best friends, a pirate and a catgirl, to confront the great evil, who is called Lord Zahn. [10:01] ..........AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! [10:01] This Lord Zahn just happens to be on an immense starship. [10:02] So they get there, and his brother reveals that he sold his soul in order to get something called a Celestial Sword that was capable of hurting this Lord Zahn. [10:02] Does it contain the "any resemblance to people living or dead is coincidence" disclaimer? [10:02] So his brother runs up to the big baddie, drops his sword, and gives Lord Zahn a big hug. [10:03] Shad: Presumably. [10:03] ... [10:03] Then it's revealed that his brother wasn't the one who sold his soul to get the sword, it was the catgirl, who had previously tried to kill the main 'character' [10:04] So his brother and his one true love switch sides. [10:04] So in other words, the author is saying "If it isn't in DBZ or GitS, then it sucks." ? [10:05] This guy somehow pulls enough courage and moral strength from his sudden conversion from Atheist to Devout Christian to not only not switch sides, but go and rescue the scientist that they need to seal the rift in space-time and save the universe. [10:05] *** ChamInnaFuudz is now known as Chamelaeon [10:05] ....... [10:05] Oh, gee. Now they're dragging religon into the whole mess. [10:06] OH, it gets better. [10:06] Everyone in the universe except for most of the people on Earth are devout christians. [10:06] Lemme guess. It turns out hte main character is actually God? [10:06] ......... [10:06] Earth is Mecca, and has had intergalactic wars fought over it, because Jesus was born there. [10:06] ................ [10:07] So it's a bit of theological propaganda thinly disguised as a very very bad novel? [10:07] So midway through the book, the main guy has an out of body experience when the catgirl poisons him, and he sees a demon standing in the corner and suddenly finds religion. [10:08] The big evil guy isn't really evil at all, he's a former priest who had his family killed in some way that isn't really explained very well, and decided to use a galactic superweapon to destroy everything that God created and then remake it anew in his own image, with no death or anything baad like that. [10:10] And we also find out that these people have been trying to open trade relations between parallel dimensions using space-time technobabble that doesn't really make any sense. [10:10] It strikes me that just about anyone in the channel could write a better book than this. [10:10] ... blargh. [10:10] I don't doubt it. [10:10] And get this... [10:11] Guys... :p [10:11] the book ends with him closing the space-time rift, and getting sent back in time by his brother, who is basking in all the glory and trying to do away with the galactic council and become emperor like in the good old days. [10:11] *** Lurker has joined #improfanfic [10:11] [Lurker] Flyflyflyflyfly, POW, flyflyflyflyfly. [10:11] Hiya Lurk. [10:11] ... I think there's a book you would like to hear about. [10:11] And he closes the spacetime rift by flying into it with a few hundred of the weapon that opened it in the first place and detonating them all at once. [10:11] j00000 [10:11] Dem: Oro? [10:11] No! Stop the hurting! [10:11] ... So it's a thin imitation of Star Wars at the end... ^^x;; [10:12] STOP THE HURTING! [10:12] * Demota sends log. Yay. [10:12] And what's worse is... this is only book one of three! [10:12] ................ [10:12] WHAT?! [10:13] All I have to say is that I hope this book tanks and the other two are never published. [10:13] heh [10:13] The author doesn't even have the balls to publish it under his own name. [10:14] I have to hope that he gets better ideas to publish. [10:14] He's using a pen name, "Michael W. Greene" [10:14] MUCH better. [10:15] Anyway, goin ta get snack cakes and such. [10:15] Oooooh, and apparently the Ghost in the Shell influence won't become apparent until Book 2. [10:15] *** Kenji is now known as AwayKen [10:15] ... [10:16] * Demota cries. [10:16] -> [Dansuke] PING [10:16] This is his first published novel, too. [10:17] * Lurker is reading the log of ND's description of this book [10:17] Wait, he's also seen Ninja Scroll and Perfect Blue. [10:17] * Lurker is entering Purple Rage Mode. [10:17] So... why does this guy think DBZ fans will like it again? [10:18] Probably because he tried to write the fight scenes like he imagines DBZ would be written. [10:19] I'll admit, the final fight between Lord Zahn and the main 'character' is fairly dragonball-esque. [10:19] Even though it's not normally the 'good guy' who gets ganged up on. [10:20] How did this book get published? [10:20] Good God, this sounds like a Dr. Thinker fic. [10:20] Or a Ratliff fic. [10:20] Probably a company trying to capitalize on the anime craze. [10:20] I'm guessing a vanity publisher. [10:20] Because no real publishing company would ever publish something this horren---actually, strike that, some of them would. [10:21] Ah, it's a 'new' publisher. iUniverse. [10:21] perhaps it's one of them... [10:21] No wonder. [10:21] Well, they'll be bankrupt soon enough [10:21] They'll take anything they can get, basically. [10:21] It won't have the time to become an 'old' one if they start off with this kind of crud [10:21] This guy claims to have written this book before having seen DBZ, too. [10:22] I could write better shit than that on a day when I'm completely encased in writer's block. [10:22] On my worst possible day for writing I could do better than that. [10:22] Heh. [10:23] The absolute worst thing I've ever written was STILL better than this sounds. [10:23] Suddenly, I no longer worry about not being able to get a book published if I try writing one. [10:23] I mean, if crap like THIS can get published... [10:23] Though not by much, admittedly, but I was like, 17 [10:23] Dem: No frickin' joke @_@ [10:24] Well, who is this being published by? [10:24] I mean, not only is it a bad plot, it slams every religon other than Christianity. [10:24] *** Farsan has quit IRC (Ping timeout#) [10:24] One of those self-publishing things on the net? [10:24] Dem, it'd have to have a plot before it could be called a bad plot. [10:24] As far as book publicity, I used "The Successful Self-Publisher," and some other books. Because, when you're starting out... you need to do nearly all your own publicity. [10:24] Hee [10:25] A bunch of unrelated events and retcons slammed together with a few thin, ludicrous "Oh wait, that's not how it was at all!" bits is NOT a plot in any way, shape, or form. [10:25] Ked: It's also coming out in hard copy. I've got a copy of it in my hands. [10:25] * Demota snickers [10:25] Right, but from who? [10:25] iUniverse [10:26] Or, more specifically, Writers' Club Press. [10:26] That screams vanity publisher [10:26]